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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    I do both.
    We had to do a couple of laps of Taupo one-handed as a countersteering drill on Sunday, the first lap was rather intimidating the second was easier. But MASSIVE respect to you for dong it all the time

    Arcane1, get ye to rider training. There is apparently ACC subsidised training in Hams next month
    It's all Shits and Giggles until someone Giggles and Shits


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie View Post
    after temporarily losing the use of my left hand I was wondering how I can modify the clutch for right hand operation.. flag the front brake and just put clutch there instead?
    DO NOT REMOVE THE FRONT BRAKE - it supplies more than 80% of your stopping power. If you were driving a car what you are proposing to do is to use only the hand brake to stop.

    Move the clutch lever to the right hand side but place the lever well below the brake lever. Then learn to use three fingers on the brake lever and the fourth for the clutch.

    When moving off you can use all four fingers on the clutch.

    If having to stop in a hurry - use the brake and ignore the clutch - the bike will stall when the speed drops low enough but at least you will still be able to stop.

    And yes this is hard - but it can be done as at least one KB member has to do this all of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie View Post
    after temporarily losing the use of my left hand I was wondering how I can modify the clutch for right hand operation.. flag the front brake and just put clutch there instead?
    off topic. but buy a clake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie View Post
    after temporarily losing the use of my left hand I was wondering how I can modify the clutch for right hand operation.. flag the front brake and just put clutch there instead?
    ive used a ATV thumb throttle for a clutch setup on a customers bike. getting the leverage ratio down on the
    cltuch was interesting ended up with a double pull system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Seems legit.


    Quote Originally Posted by MarkW View Post
    DO NOT REMOVE THE FRONT BRAKE - it supplies more than 80% of your stopping power.
    haha, I wouldn't take the front brake off the 2 wheeler sidecar has foot brake though front lever is just a spare incase footbrake linked circuit fails.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    off topic. but buy a clake.
    whats a clake.. I'll be damned if I look it up myself on google.

    Quote Originally Posted by carburator View Post
    ive used a ATV thumb throttle for a clutch setup on a customers bike. getting the leverage ratio down on the
    cltuch was interesting ended up with a double pull system
    hmmm... hydraulic clutch though

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    If it hasnt been mentioned already go to the California Superbike School

    http://www.facebook.com/CaliforniaSu...hoolnz?fref=ts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie View Post
    after temporarily losing the use of my left hand I was wondering how I can modify the clutch for right hand operation.. flag the front brake and just put clutch there instead?
    The suggestions I've had on how I should do it have been many, some ok and some clearly not thought out. Like the clutch being moved to the rear brake lever. Or changing the front brake to the rear brake lever. What I've got works for me.
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    countersteering is how we all control any two wheel vehicle.....i tend to push when i "deliberatley" to iniate a turn that requires a bit more urgency than normal.But i think the push sometimes results in the lean away...you are sorta pushing you body away from the turn....

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    Farout , i just get a leg over and ride...whats up with all this techno bullshit ? recon you all need to get out there and ride//if you come home , sweet , if you dont then you have fu*kd itup..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcarpet View Post
    Farout , i just get a leg over and ride...whats up with all this techno bullshit ? recon you all need to get out there and ride//if you come home , sweet , if you dont then you have fu*kd itup..............
    Its not about getting home its about getting home first and in the most style

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    The suggestions I've had on how I should do it have been many, some ok and some clearly not thought out. Like the clutch being moved to the rear brake lever. Or changing the front brake to the rear brake lever. What I've got works for me.
    mean bro, looks diy - able too, on the sidecar. See how the hand heals up before wanganui street race.. at the mo its too weak to pull in a clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie View Post
    mean bro, looks diy - able too, on the sidecar. See how the hand heals up before wanganui street race.. at the mo its too weak to pull in a clutch.
    On the sidecar, just take off the front brake hose and put the clutch to it.

    Take off the caliper if it runs a 'spare' like the outfit we rode. Ya don't use it for anything but pushing around the pits anyway, and if your foot brake fails, don't expect the hand brake to have any effect at all.

    Countersteering...Just so I'm still on topic.

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    This will help with countersteering.

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...rome-pack-rack

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    To countersteer properly, you need a helmet with great visability and style...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...750-KBC-Helmet

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    If I broke it down while I was riding "which I don't",,,I'd be leading/pushing into the corner with both my inside shoulder and inside hand.

    The outside hand will be feathering the bar very lightly,,certainly not pulling on it.

    The big thing is that I always set up for the corner well before entering it and because of that,the counter steering part of the deal is never thought about,,if I get the corner right everything else simply follows through.

    There's a saying in another sport I'm heavily involved in,,,"don't over think it".

    What it comes down to is that a lot of people do really well,,,until they start to analise what it is their doing.

    From there it often turns to shit which in turn leads to their hitting a performance brick wall,,and in some cases dropping out of the sport altogeather.

    Even though I hold several national and a couple of international titles myself,,,I don't coach myself due to that very issue.

    I pay a real coach do as I'm told and allow the tech to become subconcious.

    The same should/could hold for any motorcyclist that really wants to get it right,,,go to a pro and just do as your told.

    Don't over think it.

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