Justify the price: email to LTSA

[High Lord]

Hi, just sent a email to LTSA.. lets see if they help.. or if you know the answer...

Hello,
I have just re-licensed my motorcycle for 3 months after 2 1/2 months in the garage with the rego on hold. I was of course amazed to discover the $137.67 paid only covered me for two weeks. I then hear you have a 3 month minimum rule for putting the rego on hold.

With the new LAMS system it has finally been appreciated that the relation between different capacity motorbikes and power output is not necessarily linear . Yet the pricing system for motorbike licensing still relies on capacity.

Now I realise that rules have their reasons, especially in a government organisation. I would like to know;
- Why there is a 3 month minimum for having the vehicle license on hold?
- Why is there a kw per ton system for LAMS, but not for setting fees.

I look forward to hearing from you,
Enzo

[nzmikey]

Good luck with getting an answer that makes sense from those clowns

[James Deuce]

Hahaha. Asked this in October. Got told there was no intention to review ACC registration Levies.

So in other words, LAMS is an attempt to capture more money from ACC levies because n00bs are more likely to register their bikes, and probably quite keen to get something over 600cc.

Yes, National are that cynical. Yes, we are that gullible.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hi, just sent a email to LTSA.. lets see if they help.. or if you know the answer...

Hello,
I have just re-licensed my motorcycle for 3 months after 2 1/2 months in the garage with the rego on hold. I was of course amazed to discover the $137.67 paid only covered me for two weeks. I then hear you have a 3 month minimum rule for putting the rego on hold.

With the new LAMS system it has finally been appreciated that the relation between different capacity motorbikes and power output is not necessarily linear . Yet the pricing system for motorbike licensing still relies on capacity.

Now I realise that rules have their reasons, especially in a government organisation. I would like to know;
- Why there is a 3 month minimum for having the vehicle license on hold?
- Why is there a kw per ton system for LAMS, but not for setting fees.

I look forward to hearing from you,
Enzo

Dear Mr Enzo

Thank you for your correspondence.

LTSA is the statutory body which implements Government policy, and the regulations which enforce that policy. While there might be some input at an advisory level, fees are set by by the Minister.

We suggest you refer your enquiry to the Minister of Transport, the Hon Gerry Brownlee, or to the Associate Minister, Simon Bridges.

Thank you again for contacting LTSA.

Yours faithfully



Also: WITHNAIL & I = AWESOME.

Scrubbers!!!

[Akzle]

Dear Mr Enzo...

* Dear Sir/Madam

Thanks for contacting LTNZ concerning the licensing fees for a motorcycle.

Under current law:

11
Application for licence

(1)An application for a licence for a motor vehicle must—

(a)be in a form acceptable to the Registrar; and

(b)provide the full name of the registered person; and

(c)provide the full address of the registered person's place of residence, or place of business, within New Zealand; and

(d)provide the full postal address within New Zealand of the registered person (if different from the address given under paragraph (c)); and

(e)be accompanied by any other information, documents, and evidence related to the motor vehicle or that person that may be required by the Registrar (including, but not limited to, evidence of identity such as a driver licence or passport).

(2)In the case of a motor vehicle that is not registered, references in subclause (1) to the registered person are to be read as references to the person who is to be registered in respect of the motor vehicle.

(3)For the purposes of subclause (1)(e), different requirements may be imposed for different cases or for different classes of motor vehicles.

AND:

12 Issue of licences on payment of accident insurance levy

The Registrar may not issue a licence for a motor vehicle if the accident insurance levy in respect of the period for which the licence is to be in force has not been paid.

AND:

63
Registration and licensing fees

(1)The fees payable for the registration or cancellation of registration of a motor vehicle are specified in Parts 1 and 1A of Schedule 5.

(2)The fees payable for the licensing of a motor vehicle are specified in Parts 2, 2A, 3, and 4 of Schedule 5.

(3) The fees specified in Parts 1, 2, and 3 of Schedule 5 that are payable under this regulation (excluding applicable refunds, and goods and services tax payable under the Goods and Services Tax Act 1985) are land transport revenue for the purposes of section 6 of the Land Transport Management Act 2003.

if you are at all unclear about anything, feel free to go fuck yourself.

Sincerely,
LTNZ office bitch

*computer generated signature
*barcode

[High Lord]

g.brownlee@ministers.govt.nz
s.bridges@ministers.govt.nz

Excellent, sent to these two also, thank you.

[High Lord]

* Dear Sir/Madam

Thanks for contacting LTNZ concerning the licensing fees for a motorcycle.

Under current law:

11
Application for licence

(1)An application for a licence for a motor vehicle must—

(a)be in a form acceptable to the Registrar; and

(b)provide the full name of the registered person; and

(c)provide the full address of the registered person's place of residence, or place of business, within New Zealand; and
....
...

if you are at all unclear about anything, feel free to go fuck yourself.

Sincerely,
LTNZ office bitch

*computer generated signature
*barcode

Yes, I thought I may let them have a go first. ..oh.. it seems they have.. again

[Akzle]

g.brownlee@ministers.govt.nz
s.bridges@ministers.govt.nz

Excellent, sent to these two also, thank you.

you left out nic smith, minister of everything....
judith colins, acc minister

[HenryDorsetCase]

you left out nic smith, minister of everything....
judith colins, acc minister

Nucks Muth is minister of nothing these days due to his abject mishandling of the Bronwyn Pullar affair. You might recall he wrote to HIS department on Ministerial letterhead providing support to a customer of the organisation. Quite how such an appalling error of judgment seemed to be a good idea escaped his attention at the time.

But yeah, crusher is the munster of ACC. Also justus if memory serves.

[MrKiwi]

Small but important detail, the LTSA (and the LTNZ for that matter) have not existed for some time. It is the NZTA (New Zealand Transport Authority). Helps to address your email to the right organisation!

[wysper]

Small but important detail, the LTSA (and the LTNZ for that matter) have not existed for some time. It is the NZTA (New Zealand Transport Authority). Helps to address your email to the right organisation!

Do you think they keep changing it so people never contact the right organisation or the attempt at contact just disappears?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Do you think they keep changing it so people never contact the right organisation or the attempt at contact just disappears?

They are very easy to deal with on a transactional basis for doing relicencing and such. It has to be said.

[Flip]

Tax and death are the two things you can't avoid.

Good luck with both!

[MrKiwi]

They are very easy to deal with on a transactional basis for doing relicencing and such. It has to be said.

Yes I agree.

The original post is a good post, I'm going to follow this thread to see if he gets a reply. I agree with the principle that if you are going to have more expensive and less expensive registrations then the LAMS limit is a good point to make that differentiation.

[Akzle]

Tax and death are the two things you can't avoid.

Good luck with both!

i disagree. so far, avoiding both on a daily basis quite successfully.