Lanesplitting fees

**Damon** · 12th August 2005, 08:32

I was stopped by a cop some time ago, and luckily he stopped another guy on a bike at the same time and just gave us a warning but he told us that to do it legaly you need to be on the right hand side of a car but in the same lane, as soon as you cross the line you are undertaking the car on your right, however he also said that if the traffic is stationary then you can move through it freely.

**Pancakes** · 12th August 2005, 09:19

Quote; Brian - Were you using your indicator while you did the lane split? I am told that although lane splitting is a gray area, to be indicating right shows you are overtaking the right car, not undertaking the left car.

I was indicating but was on the left of the cars I was sharing the lane with. If I was on their right and stayed in the lane it would have been cool. I recon the fast lane should be a toll lane and free for bikes. They will never build a cost effective motorway when usage has such aggressive peaks. It's not a grey area, overtaking in the same lane, even if there are yellow lines is ok as long as it is safe, ie there is room and you don't freak the guy out. You must indicate, pass on the right and not cross the yellow line. With white lines, once you cross the line, you are changing lanes not passing so you can't continue on to pass the vehicles in that lane on thier left. I figured they had my plate so I stopped and was well behaved, he did ask why I didn't just do that swerving thing bikes do and indicate each swerve. I just smiled and wondered where swervey things are in the road code.

**bugjuice** · 12th August 2005, 09:24

This is what I do since I've been riding, and never had a prob. I also ride past cops all the time..

**Fart** · 12th August 2005, 09:56

Some of the cops are as anal as the new policies introduced by the Labour party. We have record numbers of violent robberies and drug problems in NZ while we debate about the legality of overtaking on the left or right lanes?

The cops should get their priorities right.

Time for the Minister and Commissioner of Police to step down !

**zadok** · 12th August 2005, 10:09

Those of you that have been to parts of Asia would know what it is like with all those scooters. All getting to the front and taking off in a cloud of smoke. I found it quite entertaining. Quite a sight.

**FEINT** · 12th August 2005, 10:12

Originally Posted by zadok

Those of you that have been to parts of Asia would know what it is like with all those scooters. All getting to the front and taking off in a cloud of smoke. I found it quite entertaining. Quite a sight.

Except the times where one fella falls over and you have a huge pile up. That is even funnier to watch!

**vifferman** · 12th August 2005, 10:30

Originally Posted by Fart

The cops should get their priorities right.

But they have!
Consider: "If you're prepared to speed, you're prepared to kill."
Therefore, speeding is a serious crime, akin to murder. And by association, other driving-related crimes are also serious. Lanesplitting is probably as bad then as say, paedophilia, rape, or aggravated assault. This is borne out by the amount of police attention these serious vehicular crimes are receiving, and the penalties they attract.

So, obviously it's us, the general motoring public who are in the wrong, not the pollies or police. We need to change out attitudes, and if we can't, we should at least save the understaffed, overworked police some time and money by dobbing each other (and ourselves, if necessary) in, so that don't have to waste resources going out to catch us in the act.

**pyrocam** · 12th August 2005, 10:56

good thread, better than some of the lane splitting ones.
I split exactly the same as BrianGB most of the time and I constantly scan for odd antenna or real cops. I will often pull into traffic if I see one. pretend that I was just overtaking someone or something. but on the NW between the fast lane and the second fastest lane where most of the lane splitting happens, there is heaps more room on the right lane because the cages have nothing on the other side.

are they saying the would rather us ride down the right hand land of the fast lane (IE practically the median bit)

I really must curb me splitting enthusiam though, I'm gonna get a good slap soon if I keep this up.

no demerit points though?

**Pancakes** · 12th August 2005, 11:09

I'm new to this and not sure how to start a poll but I'd like to see how fast most people filter at in say stopped to 20-30k traffic. (Normal M'Way stop/ go style). I'm used to making gaps from cycle couriering but have to watch myself as I'm still getting used to motorbike controls. I don't go over 60 in stopped or slow traffic and join in if the boxes are doing 40+. Seems like lots of bikers see each other around commuting etc and if you see a KB'er with an L plate on and feel you could help their riding style, I for one am open to suggestions. Not F**'in dick go home, more the tips and pointers type. I'm stoked I found this site though, to everyone who was around at the start and/or is a long time contributor, good shit and keep it up. Oh yeah, no points off, sweet! One ticket every three weeks and riding is still cheaper than bussing from Whenuapai and takes a third of the time.

**pyrocam** · 12th August 2005, 11:20

Originally Posted by BrianGB

I'm new to this and not sure how to start a poll but I'd like to see how fast most people filter at in say stopped to 20-30k traffic. (Normal M'Way stop/ go style). I'm used to making gaps from cycle couriering but have to watch myself as I'm still getting used to motorbike controls. I don't go over 60 in stopped or slow traffic and join in if the boxes are doing 40+. Seems like lots of bikers see each other around commuting etc and if you see a KB'er with an L plate on and feel you could help their riding style, I for one am open to suggestions. Not F**'in dick go home, more the tips and pointers type. I'm stoked I found this site though, to everyone who was around at the start and/or is a long time contributor, good shit and keep it up. Oh yeah, no points off, sweet! One ticket every three weeks and riding is still cheaper than bussing from Whenuapai and takes a third of the time.

unfortuantly you cant add a poll to it. you would have to create a new thread and look for the checkbox 'post a poll with this thread'

then it wil take you to a new screen where you enter the poll options

**Pancakes** · 12th August 2005, 11:22

I'm gonna do it, just cos I can.

**DemonWolf** · 12th August 2005, 11:31

meh, I've had too many people be twats and open their doors on me to try Lane splitting right now... perhaps when I'm more comfortable and in a hurry to get someplace I'd consider it.. but I'd rather not risk and entice the twats!