petrol prices

[Beemer]

I must confess I got a bit of a shock today when it cost $16 to fill the tank of the Goose when it went onto reserve. So used to paying about $12 - and how annoying that it STILL isn't enough to collect Fly Buys points!

[Dragon28]

There is this link for what BP quotes as being "The Facts About Fuel Pricing"

They reckon as of April 2005 47.5% goes in taxes

http://www.bp.co.nz/about/pricing/index.html#4

[TwoSeven]

In a lecture I was at today they were discussing hubbert curves (something I had forgotton about - so it pays to turn up to lectures).

Anyhow, the key point is that hubbert takes all the worlds oil supplies and for each company calculates when they will reach their peak of production (that is, there is no more oil to be found). These graphs are all added together to find the world oil supply - the top of the curve (its bell shaped) is called a hubbert peak.

The general concensus (except for the US) is that the peak should be occuring between 2005 and 2010, from which time pretty much all of the oil will have been discovered (or known where it is) and being drilled for.

In economic terms once this happens prices will continue to rise because every barrel taken out of the ground after the peak reduces the supply available (its no longer renewable), so the price will rise as scarcity increases.

Not only does this mean petrol prices will rise, but everything thats made using oil will also rise (synthetics, plastics, clothing, food etc).

You can google on 'Hubbert Peak' to find out more.

[loosebruce]

Petrol prices, eh whatever have to pay it, so i dont bitch about it. BUT........

I went to get gas at shell westgate today, just lifted the pump and the dude came running out and told me to hang it up, huh WTF, oh we are putting the price up now, please wait until we have done it, why cant i just fill up? no sorry please wait, i couldn't be arsed waiting so went down the road to challenge, who was still on the cheaper rate but mobil across the road was at the higher one.

[JohnBoy]

not too fussed at the moment cause i do the main amount of my driving at work and the Gixer runs 91, so it has not really had a major impact on me yet.

but i could only imagine how much extra it would cost to fill my falcon up now...

[myvice]

Build a ceramic engine (doesn’t were out, runs cooler, light weight, needs no oil) and run it on methanol (can make it yourself, needs little refining, better for the environment)
Lots of engines use methanol as fuel and the Ausse gas is about 10% methanol already (don’t like that idea myself)
A Spanish company has built a ceramic motor, expansive to produce but that wont take long to change.

You can run your standard motor on methanol with a little tinkering (Translation: Full strip-down, then rebuild with different/altered parts) But you have to get ALL of the fuel out of the system every time you intend on leaving it for more than 5mins.
One little drawback with running methanol is sitting behind someone else doing the same thing, your eyes water continuously followed by a runny nose, breathing isn’t something you want to do to much of ether!
Hang around a pit-crew at your local speed way and ask if you can help push the car back in after a run... Go on, its fun!

[Timber020]

Over in Mugabeeland the zims are paying 15 bucks a litre, if they can find it

[gav]

I was told at the start of the year that by Xmas time the price would be $1.50 per litre, looks like they werent bullshitting after all.......

[oldfart]

Look at it this way. Even a 1 litre bike getting raped is still more economical than average car. Also, the more petrol prices go up the less sunday bloody sunday drivers there will be on the roads in the weekend. This means more open space for rides & all for less than a yearly golf subscription or boat mooring charges.

[hondacmx450]

if all the bikers got to geather and did some thing about it things would change
say if 50 bikers stoped at the top of the harbor bridge in auckland one morrning and 50 at the new market fly over and 20 on the bottom of town and some at the northen sothern change over well that is auckland fucked and do it in hamilton and cristchurch and of corse wellington and so on do it all on the same day and the same time and you watch ppl take notice and if thay dont do it till thay do it would not take long and tell them if thay put some thing else up then it will start all over again
F%^$ THE PETROL COMPANIES
but no one dose any thing about it just like any of you wont cause it might get you told off

[gav]

Most modern cars are very economical, we have a 2004 Toyota Caldina GT Four at work that supposedly uses 6.5 litres per 100km, thats pretty good isnt it? What sort of fuel usage are most getting, personally I have no idea what my bike uses, when it gets low I fill it up, (tripmeter doesnt work, sorry....)

[SARGE]

It would be interesting to compare the amount of tax per litre that different country's governments contribute to the cost. I think about half the cost of a litre here is tax in one form or another but I could be wrong. )

when i left the US 4 years ago.. i was paying US$1.20 a GALLON ( 3.8L) of that, 0.45 was tax that was put back into the highway system for maintenence. ( if anyone has ever driven on a US Interstate, they are ( for the most part) smooth, flat and well maintained.. beautiful stretches of 4 lane wide asphalt.. 150+ MPH [240 kph] was not out of the way for a bike for miles on end..)

no dammit.. they are NOT all arrow straight either by the way.. in the 1950s, when the US highway system was born, part of it was paid for by the Military budget, in order to be usd as airstrips and logistical movement.. 1 out of every 5 miles of US interstate is legally required to be straight and flat (useless trivia time!!)

my sister is now paying US$2.30 a gallon and having kittens over it...figuring it out as near as i can,.. we pay about $5.40 a gallon in NZ terms ( gas today being $1.43 / Litre.. she pays US$ 0.60 a litre or so..with the Kiwi $ trading @ 0.71 today.... fuck my brain hurts.. someone do the math..

[hondacmx450]

when i left the US 4 years ago.. i was paying US$1.20 a GALLON ( 3.8L) of that, 0.45 was tax that was put back into the highway system for maintenence. ( if anyone has ever driven on a US Interstate, they are ( for the most part) smooth, flat and well maintained.. beautiful stretches of 4 lane wide asphalt.. 150+ MPH [240 kph] was not out of the way for a bike for miles on end..)

no dammit.. they are NOT all arrow straight either by the way.. in the 1950s, when the US highway system was born, part of it was paid for by the Military budget, in order to be usd as airstrips and logistical movement.. 1 out of every 5 miles of US interstate is legally required to be straight and flat (useless trivia time!!)

my sister is now paying US$2.30 a gallon and having kittens over it...figuring it out as near as i can,.. we pay about $5.40 a gallon in NZ terms ( gas today being $1.43 / Litre.. she pays US$ 0.60 a litre or so..with the Kiwi $ trading @ 0.71 today.... fuck my brain hurts.. someone do the math..

ILL DO THE MATH WE R GETTING SCREWED BY THE COCKS IN CHARGE OF THIS CUNTRY

[raster]

Used to cost me about $70 week in the subaru, now on the GSX costs about $15, I can think of better things to spend the difference on.

[Milky]

I must confess I got a bit of a shock today when it cost $16 to fill the tank of the Goose when it went onto reserve. So used to paying about $12 - and how annoying that it STILL isn't enough to collect Fly Buys points!

Haha... I was only a couple of cents short of $30 for the R65 tank on Tuesday morning. I remember not so long ago, that amount would fill up a Toyota Corolla