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Thread: Why would you need to stand on your foot pegs and do you run red lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    1. why would you need to stand on your foot pegs?
    a. stretching
    b. change in position
    c. increased control of bike in certain situations (normally adventure riding). Standing on the pegs makes your body contact points the pegs instead of seat, thereby lowering your centre of gravity. Also increases input amounts on pegs for weight shifting... found it much easier when tramlining in lines of gravel to be able to get out.
    d. Increased air flow if you have big screens. Did it today on the motorway coming back into Auckland. Air flowing through gear felt great.

    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady
    2. do you run red lights?
    Occasionally, if the light won't pick up my presence. Only know of one or two, most of the time I ride a different route. I wait a couple of minutes (it's longer than you think) giving it ample opportunity to detect me, or 2-3 phases of lights. If still no success then the lights are clearly faulty and I proceed with caution, applying the give way rules.
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    i didnt even know there was sensors !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Occasionally, if the light won't pick up my presence.
    If they cant detect you then they clearly MUST be broken
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Standing on the pegs makes your body contact points the pegs instead of seat, thereby lowering your centre of gravity.
    Actualy you've raised your centre of gravity. Standing on the pegs doesn't change the mass of the bike and rider combination. The upward force resisting that of Gravity is stll acting through the tyres so the bike and rider are still one unit of mass. What you have done is allow the bike to move more freely from side to side by removing the need for the rider to move with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Actualy you've raised your centre of gravity. Standing on the pegs doesn't change the mass of the bike and rider combination. The upward force resisting that of Gravity is stll acting through the tyres so the bike and rider are still one unit of mass. What you have done is allow the bike to move more freely from side to side by removing the need for the rider to move with it.
    I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.
    Centre of gravity is raised if you stand up. However your mass is acting on the footpegs and allows you to pivot "freely" around them for lateral and longitudinal movements of the bike.

    If standing on pegs really lowered CG then you'd see road racers crouched over behind fairing, bum off seat, one foot on inside peg...thus transferring all their weight lower, and to the inside of the corner....nah By the same logic if you have a rearset and do a standup wheelie your COG will be lowered and the bike will be totally stable
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post
    Centre of gravity is raised if you stand up. However your mass is acting on the footpegs and allows you to pivot "freely" around them for lateral and longitudinal movements of the bike.
    Actually ... the effect you have on a motorcycle when you stand up ... has more to do with leverage, than its center of gravity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.
    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Actually ... the effect you have on a motorcycle when you stand up ... has more to do with leverage, than its center of gravity.
    so which is it trev?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    so which is it trev?
    I believe the latter. As for the former ... it is just a theory some hold.

    A question for the racers ... does your bike handle better through the turns (better or worse) with a full tank of fuel ??? (not to be confused with going faster)

    On an FJ1200 ... the effects of gravity is often noticed ... and not always to my advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I think the theory is ... sitting puts (most) weight on the seat. Standing puts (most) weight on the foot pegs. Thus center of gravity is lowered.
    Yeah, that's where most people go wrong. The attachment point of the rider is irellevant to CG. The only thing that matters is the overall mass of the system (bike and rider in this case) and it's distribution within the system. Putting more mass higher in the system, which is what happens when you stand on the pegs, raises the CG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    anyway I'm clearly talking about myself I got stuck at a set of lights yesterday. I serously waited ages and kept trying to move back and forwards to see if I could trigger it and nothing! I was also on a slight incline at the top of a hill at a busy intersection.. and to get to the ped button I would've had to run across two lanes of traffic. I waited ages for another car to come but I was turning right and the other lane (s) were going straight or left. I've never run a red light, ever, not on purpose anyway, didn't know what to do!
    The other option in this case is turn left and do a u turn somewhere safe down the road
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    If you are wearing leathers it is essential to stand on your pegs if you want to let a good fart out. The combination of thick leather and pressure on ones bottom from seating just won't allow the gas to escape. Thus the standing on the pegs.
    Hahahaha! Reckon the bike went/will go any faster?

    #1 I also stand up a little/brace myself for speed bumps. Damn road I live by is full of them with no escape. I didn't brace once and got sore nuts - not fun.

    #2 This ALWAYS happened when I was on the Jog. I would mumble, get off and press the button for peds. Once I thought about jumping the lights at 2 am. Was just winding back the throttle, about to go and a cop went flying through the intersection lights and sirens. Scared the shit outta me! Was glad I didn't go, I always use the button after that. Hasn't really happened with the bike yet, most times I'm in a line of cars (not ready for filtering just yet, do it on the Jog all the time though). So yeah just cos its clear, be careful.....

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    quite a few speed bumps out my way too, I don't stand up though but spose I don't have nuts to look after either

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    quite a few speed bumps out my way too, I don't stand up though but spose I don't have nuts to look after either
    Ladies are better at squatting so take your weight off the seat when going over humps/ bumps.
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