Why would you need to stand on your foot pegs and do you run red lights?

[300weatherby]

I know quite a few motorcyclists who are also road cyclists.

How did you ever come up with the plonker comment you made above?

I doubt that many road cyclists are actually retarded. Unless they are on KB.

Bugger off!

Christchurch cyclists are often retarded and do as much dumb stuff on the road as any other, often because they seem to believe the general road rules do not apply to them, a position seemingly not opposed by those who would quickly pursue other forms of transport for "infringing", it is of course possible cyclists get away with the stunts they pull cause they have nowhere to carry donuts.............

[FJRider]

Bugger off!

Christchurch cyclists are often retarded and do as much dumb stuff on the road as any other, often because they seem to believe the general road rules do not apply to them, a position seemingly not opposed by those who would quickly pursue other forms of transport for "infringing", it is of course possible cyclists get away with the stunts they pull cause they have nowhere to carry donuts.............

And police seldom pursue an infringement because the shits seldom carry ID ... and is time consuming to ensure they are who they say they are. Not worth the time/bother for plod to find out . .. so plod don't ...

[AllanB]

Fucking Christchurch cyclists.

[bosslady]

Oh you guys....

[Gremlin]

Yeah, that's where most people go wrong. The attachment point of the rider is irellevant to CG. The only thing that matters is the overall mass of the system (bike and rider in this case) and it's distribution within the system. Putting more mass higher in the system, which is what happens when you stand on the pegs, raises the CG.

Oh for gods sake, I knew writing that would probably start that debate again, but I had to at least put it in as a reason for standing.

I don't care about the words, I don't care about the science, I just ride. My weight being transmitted through the pegs instead of the seat gives greater control in more technical stuff, bike handles more easily etc.

And it's christmas... ride more

[FJRider]

so which is it trev?

Think on this ...

Does it have to be one ... OR the other .. ??

Because center of gravity, and leverage ... are definitely not the same thing.

[Kornholio]

Ladies are better at squatting so take your weight off the seat when going over humps/ bumps.

Plus they can also 'suction cup' themselves to the seat too for better hangerr-onerring....

[swbarnett]

Oh for gods sake, I knew writing that would probably start that debate again,

No debate, just basic physics. Sorry to be a pedant.

but I had to at least put it in as a reason for standing.

What you said here fits the bill perfectly:

I don't care about the words, I don't care about the science, I just ride. My weight being transmitted through the pegs instead of the seat gives greater control in more technical stuff, bike handles more easily etc.

[Road kill]

I have a funny hip "which ain't that funny really" so when it starts to lock up and remind me it's still there I'll often stand up to help it relax a bit,,,,or I'm just fuckin' about which all motorcyclists are allowed to do anyway.

In Hamilton I once rode through a red that wouldn't change and very shortly after I had a cop tell me I should of got off the bike an pushed it over the curb then around the corner and back onto the road,,,,at 2:00am 1975 in Hamilton.

So I just ride through the bloody things after a quick look about to make sure that cops not still about.

[arcane12]

Blah blah blah physics blah blah centre of mass blah suspension blah blah unsprung mass. Meh, terminology.

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.

[bluninja]

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.

Does your Suzook not have a cutout switch if you put the side stand down in gear? Or are you advocating: stop, select neutral, put side stand down, lights change, select gear, engine cuts out, Doh!

Why not put metal skids under your boots?

[iYRe]

Blah blah blah physics blah blah centre of mass blah suspension blah blah unsprung mass. Meh, terminology.

Anyway, traffic lights - as mentioned riding over the black tar strips, particularly the middle one, will set them off. It works on induction which means you need to have something metal near the wires underground. So putting the side stand down could work iff you are a bitt off, plus it is closer to the ground and could be made of a different material to your rims. My cruiser being low to the ground seems to have less trouble, plus I usually aim for the centre tar line.

Also, as I said before, the sensors are supposed to work for bicycles as well as cars, motorbikes, etc (which incidentally would cause a problem if they are induction fired, since a lot of road bikes these days are mostly, if not totally carbon, but that's beside the point). The advocacy group, Cycle Action Auckland has a working relationship with the council, and they have asked many times, and been told that ALL light controlled intersections SHOULD trigger for something as small as a bicycle, if not, they are not set up correctly (ie faulty) and they should be reported to the council.

I expect this is the same for most major city councils, but it is at least true in Auckland, so if you are in Auckland, and you stop at lights that dont trigger, do EVERYONE a favour and call the council's fault line, get them to fix it (and they do.. I've now had 2 repaired, on my bicycle route.. just one more to go)

[bosslady]

Also, as I said before, the sensors are supposed to work for bicycles as well as cars, motorbikes, etc (which incidentally would cause a problem if they are induction fired, since a lot of road bikes these days are mostly, if not totally carbon, but that's beside the point). The advocacy group, Cycle Action Auckland has a working relationship with the council, and they have asked many times, and been told that ALL light controlled intersections SHOULD trigger for something as small as a bicycle, if not, they are not set up correctly (ie faulty) and they should be reported to the council.

I expect this is the same for most major city councils, but it is at least true in Auckland, so if you are in Auckland, and you stop at lights that dont trigger, do EVERYONE a favour and call the council's fault line, get them to fix it (and they do.. I've now had 2 repaired, on my bicycle route.. just one more to go)

I should probably do that then

[iYRe]

I should probably do that then

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[bosslady]

Does your Suzook not have a cutout switch if you put the side stand down in gear? Or are you advocating: stop, select neutral, put side stand down, lights change, select gear, engine cuts out, Doh!

Why not put metal skids under your boots?

Wonder what you mean? I know on my bike there is no cutout and every time I go to get off I stop, side stand, neutral, turn off bike, get off (without falling, hopefully)

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I'll try and do it today, maybe on my lunch break.