Licence question

[FJRider]

Keen to get onto the cbta course's

At the average speed that you indicated you travel at later in this post ... it would take you two weeks to get to it

The thing is I only want a 600cc but the ones I want aren't covered on the lams list :s

I guess you'll have to wait ... just like everybody else. It might help you might live a little longer.

Also I have roughly (if you include the riding I did when I was younger 1000hrs) but in the last 4 weeks ive probably gotten 112hrs road time done and over 2000kms

Time to up your average speed I think.

Sure I read somewhere on LTNZ that they want learners to do 240hrs before the restricted test hmmm seems im already pretty close to that even if you dont include my previous riding

With the figures you posted a few posts ago ... you're not even half way.

I also ride in ALL weather

I wasn't aware Wellington area HAD "ALL" weathers in the last four weeks ...

[GTRMAN]

[QUOTE=FJRider;1130485890]At the average speed that you indicated you travel at later in this post ... it would take you two weeks to get to it



I guess you'll have to wait ... just like everybody else. It might help you might live a little longer.




Time to up your average speed I think.

Sure I read somewhere on LTNZ that they want learners to do 240hrs before the restricted test hmmm seems im already pretty close to that even if you dont include my previous riding



I wasn't aware Wellington area HAD "ALL" weathers in the last four weeks ...

Well we have had rain, hail, wind and Sun so not far off....

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[bosslady]

I guess you'll have to wait ... just like everybody else. It might help you might live a little longer.

Leave the poor boy alone you bully at the end of the day he'll do what he wants that may or may not be within the law... and some of us have to grow up the hard way and learn our own lessons rather than learn from other peoples mistakes... I don't really see why he needs a faster bike, or what the rush exactly is, but 'ya know maybe there is a pretty missus he is trying to impress, that's reason enough, surely?! haha

[Dragon]

Leave the poor boy alone you bully at the end of the day he'll do what he wants that may or may not be within the law... and some of us have to grow up the hard way and learn our own lessons rather than learn from other peoples mistakes... I don't really see why he needs a faster bike, or what the rush exactly is, but 'ya know maybe there is a pretty missus he is trying to impress, that's reason enough, surely?! haha

Lol I am currently single and most of the girls I know either dont like bikes or dont know enough about them to realize the gsx isnt flash

I am not at all like grantman I see your point but thats not me at all

1. I am not starting from scratch
2. I didnt go out and buy the fastest 250 or the fastest biggest lams bike I could as I wanted to ease back into riding and get my confidence up again.
3. I dont ride like the road is a track and its very rare I go over 110km on the motorway

I have emailed a few motorbike skills and handling places and am looking into getting onto some courses to make sure I haven't picked up any bad habits, im also going to go on the next bronz ride on tuesday (didnt make it to the last two due to weather and work issues)

Might go into the bike shops start of next month and take some bigger bikes for a ride ( lams legal) just to see if anything takes my fancy

Still wanting a 600cc sportbike but I know I may be rushing alittle and I am trying to do things the right way

I need to see when manifeild has a track day on because im keen to do one and see how quick I can get the bike round the track.

[GTRMAN]

Leave the poor boy alone you bully at the end of the day he'll do what he wants that may or may not be within the law... and some of us have to grow up the hard way and learn our own lessons rather than learn from other peoples mistakes... I don't really see why he needs a faster bike, or what the rush exactly is, but 'ya know maybe there is a pretty missus he is trying to impress, that's reason enough, surely?! haha

You're probably right, but statements like 'I have done x hours' don't do his cause any favours. Over (or under) estimating your skills on a motorcycle can be deadly. My experience has taught me that the skills of driving a car do not really translate to riding a motorcycle that much.

The thing is that the mechanics of operating a motorcycle are really only the first of MANY steps to being a competent and safe motorcyclist. ROADCRAFT is about operating that motorcycle on public roads, learning to deal with the many and varied hazards therein.

Ignoring the interesting delivery, what a few people are saying is that there are no shortcuts to becoming a safe and experienced rider.

Dragon, take your time, we have all had to deal with the indignity of L plates, but they serve a purpose, as do the stages of licence. The time spent learning to get the most out of your current 250 is not wasted. Be safe.

[FJRider]

... but 'ya know maybe there is a pretty missus he is trying to impress, that's reason enough, surely?! haha

Seeing as you asked so nicely ...

But you are aware ... trying to impress (Ladies especially) would be the main cause of a (any) fella's problems ...

[FJRider]

Still wanting a 600cc sportbike but I know I may be rushing alittle and I am trying to do things the right way

I'm sure you'll find a "proper" sports bike in the approved list that tickles your fancy.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...torcycles.html

I need to see when manifeild has a track day on because im keen to do one and see how quick I can get the bike round the track.

Quicker does not mean faster. Any racer will tell you that. The trick is to ride smarter.

Rider training days teach you that.

[bosslady]

Lol I am currently single and most of the girls I know either dont like bikes or dont know enough about them to realize the gsx isnt flash

What they don't know won't hurt em

need to see when manifeild has a track day on because im keen to do one and see how quick I can get the bike round the track.

16th Feb, Saturday. I might go.

I ask again. What's the rush? why do you have to have a fast bike, why do you have to go fast?

here have a cupcake

You're probably right, but statements like 'I have done x hours' don't do his cause any favours. Over (or under) estimating your skills on a motorcycle can be deadly. My experience has taught me that the skills of driving a car do not really translate to riding a motorcycle that much.

The thing is that the mechanics of operating a motorcycle are really only the first of MANY steps to being a competent and safe motorcyclist. ROADCRAFT is about operating that motorcycle on public roads, learning to deal with the many and varied hazards therein.

Ignoring the interesting delivery, what a few people are saying is that there are no shortcuts to becoming a safe and experienced rider.

Dragon, take your time, we have all had to deal with the indignity of L plates, but they serve a purpose, as do the stages of licence. The time spent learning to get the most out of your current 250 is not wasted. Be safe.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

[MSTRS:Me]

There's a trackday at Taupo 9th February...

[bosslady]

There's a trackday at Taupo 9th February...

who's that with again? NP trip then for me anyway...

[MSTRS:Me]

At least now ... "Learner" riders can ride Bikes up to 660 cc's ... with no issue with TPTB should the learners feel capable ...

And (as you said) no 70 km speed restriction.


All said and done ... MAJOR changes that will help learner riders. But nothing radical.

Nor were radical changes expected ... and we weren't disappointed ..

The problem is not the changes (they were all good) but the fact that no changes were made to the restricted level. Apart from removing the chance of reducing the time spent on it by being over 25, or taking a course, or whatever.
So now we have 2 licence stages with no real difference...except you pays your $100 to (legally) remove the L.

EDIT: I see that training incentives to reduce time spent etc are to be re-introduced (why were they ever removed?) which is all good EXCEPT we all know that courses will not be anywhere near most towns and even cities...

[FJRider]

So now we have 2 licence stages with no real difference...except you pays your $100 to (legally) remove the L.

EDIT: I see that training incentives to reduce time spent etc are to be re-introduced (why were they ever removed?) which is all good EXCEPT we all know that courses will not be anywhere near most towns and even cities...

The license system is THREE stage. Learner. Restricted. Full.

I can only recall two time reduction methods ... Defensive Driver courses ... and the "over 25" clause.

Were there others .. ???

[FJRider]

here have a cupcake

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[MSTRS:Me]

The license system is THREE stage. Learner. Restricted. Full.

Yep. I knew that. 2 of them - Learner and Restricted - are more or less the same.

I can only recall two time reduction methods ... Defensive Driver courses ... and the "over 25" clause.

Were there others .. ???

I don't recall any others. Taking a course or being over 25. Is that not what I said?

[FJRider]

EDIT: I see that training incentives to reduce time spent etc are to be re-introduced (why were they ever removed?) which is all good EXCEPT we all know that courses will not be anywhere near most towns and even cities...

Neither the DDC or the over 25 clause, should/could be classed as "Training incentives" ...

Those two license stages are important to show the motorcyclist does have some degree of basic skills/attitude as they progress through the license system. Only those that find (or think) themselves an exception to the rules ... have reason to complain. All said and done ... that leaves very few happy with the system.

Bugger .. eh .. !!

No doubt there will be further changes to the learner/Restricted classes ... when TPTB decide whats best for them.

Maybe ... With the training not being an option ... but required part before the next stage of the license. And to be able to run these courses in places other than racetracks. So they can be held in ALL areas. They may well be run on race tracks though .. if the course organiser chooses ...

Individual choice on deciding who "Them" is ...