CBR250RR

[SPman]

A short arse for a trailie would be about 6'6, wouldnt he?

[jrandom]

You look at least my size on that FXR jrandom. Maybe you'll just have to wait until you get the full licence and then go for a naked thou'.

You'd be right. Same weight and an inch shorter. So not exactly beanpole-shaped.

And yeah, the naked thou idea is starting to look very attractive. Something Bandit-ish. A friend will be selling his XJR1300 in a year or so, which will be good timing for me, so I might hang on until then and take it off his hands at a bargain price. I've had a sit on it and it seems to fit me nicely.

[Coldkiwi]

Sports bikes can be tall as well. My GSXR seat is 830mm off the ground and it does make me stretch more than the ZX-6R did (I'm 5 10") but it's not unbearable. The pegs are bloody high though so you can still get sore leg joints on a bigger bike.
I don't think its the capacity of the bike that drives the riding position at all, more just what the bike is intended to do. So a ZX12 or R1 will make you a lot more uncomfortable and hard pressed to push it round than a ZZR250 of the same weight.

Course... just cause ya short doesn't mean you can't ride a tall bike. you just need to be good!

[slob]

I don't think its the capacity of the bike that drives the riding position at all, more just what the bike is intended to do. So a ZX12 or R1 will make you a lot more uncomfortable and hard pressed to push it round than a ZZR250 of the same weight.

From my observations, a lot of heavier large capacity sports bikes (esp v-twins) seem to have a higher seat to create more leverage for tipping them over when cornering. My old TL1000S (835 mm) felt nearly as high as the trail-bike I had before it (KLX650 - 960mm).

Course... just cause ya short doesn't mean you can't ride a tall bike. you just need to be good!

Yeah, I agree, although with the KLX650 I had to hop off at every red light and have on leg on the ground and one leg on the seat!

[georgedubyabush]

I think you just get used to it. I find the z650 less comfortable with it's big pudgy seat and upright riding position, just because i'm used to the zxr elbows on knees. Or maybe I just have abnormally long arms and short legs.

Since you were testing it pretty hard, you probably had a death grip on it too, and not as relaxed as you would be if you owned it.

[wkid_one]

So a ZX12 or R1 will make you a lot more uncomfortable and hard pressed to push it round than a ZZR250 of the same weight.

Gotta disagree - the R1 was mint for comfort - and I am over 6'. Nice big seat, comfy riding position and not too much pressure on the wrists. As for flick ability - this has a lot more to do with CoG and balance than the size/weight of the bike.

I would question the lack of 'push a roundability' of the R1/GSXR/954 in comparison to the 250cc - at the end of the day - they aren't giving that much weight up to them and that which they do is mainly held down low - not an issue for flickability. A ZZR weighs 148dry whilst an R1 170, Blade 168 - hardly much of a difference really. You also need to consider unsprung weight and gyroscopic weight - all of which the modern sports bike attempt to minimize - something a reasonably priced 250 doesn't.

The R1 was more comfortable than the VTR - and that was a big bike.

Comfort also comes from how hard you have to push the bike.

[wkid_one]

Sports bikes can be tall as well. My GSXR seat is 830mm off the ground and it does make me stretch more than the ZX-6R did (I'm 5 10") but it's not unbearable. Course... just cause ya short doesn't mean you can't ride a tall bike. you just need to be good!

Seat height is only part of the equation - what is MORE important is the width of the bike where you sit. This is why many people can get on tall trail bikes and not shorter road bikes because trailies are typically thinner.. Take the GSXRThou - I had a greater hold on the earth on the VTR than the GSXR - even tho the GSXR is lower - because the GSXR is a way wider bike.

The further you have to spread your legs (don't be rude) - the lower the seat height needs to be....this is why you can't just look at seat height when assessing if you will fit a bike