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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    ...its about corporate money...not YOUR safety!
    Obviously; WOFs have always been more about the former than the latter, why should the new laws change any of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    I think your all missing the point

    Think of the MONEY this will save for "maintaining" corporate fleets!!

    ...its about corporate money...not YOUR safety!




    (Honestly...look WHO benefits from this new law...and then look WHO pushed for this law change...link?...sure is!)
    You're right the only ones benefiting here are corporates. Fleets get it cheaper, MTA keeps their cash cow VTNZ (watch the prices increase to cover the shortfall). The only ones here not getting a good deal is the avg person. This is probably the worst option they could've picked
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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    (Honestly...look WHO benefits from this new law...and then look WHO pushed for this law change...link?...sure is!)
    Look who is disadvantaged, and then look who pushed so hard against it! The MTA argued against it purely because they were scared of the affect on their profits!

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    Are people in the countries with 1 year checks campaigning to shift to a 6 month system like New Zealand?
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    But no one here ever campaigned to change our old system either. Political jobsworths making change for the sake of it and for their big business buddies.

    And as for the English system, well they have road salt which shortens the life of the chassis so they don't have many old shitters on the road like we do. So what about a cruddy early nineties japper that was imported after 2000???

    So if you recently purchased a new vehicle does your current wof expire or is it automatically 3 years from initial date... Smashed mine off in the forest witha rockstrike somewhere other day damnit, never park it in town so not a worry at moment.

    Some of us can check our vehicles properly but how many of us can honestly say we get underneath and have a real decent nosey about? Testing station picked up perished rubber boots on steering rack once, while not a wof issue itself the guy told me it would turn into an expensive problem if not fixed soon. Its little things like that which make the current system ok to me. Just wait for the first highspeed crash on the motorway when some highflying corporate salesman has a tyre blowout and plays ping pong on the motorway. Something I saw often in UK with their longer check periods...
    A mate of mine was a rep for a packaging company, the kms and hours driving he did in commodore SV6 would have seen a truck driver arrested. Can asure you he never climbed under that wagon or did any thorough checks on it whilst driving it like he stole it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    But no one here ever campaigned to change our old system either. Political jobsworths making change for the sake of it and for their big business buddies.

    And as for the English system, well they have road salt which shortens the life of the chassis so they don't have many old shitters on the road like we do. So what about a cruddy early nineties japper that was imported after 2000???

    I think yuor getting tad carried away car not going to fall to pieces my crappy mx5 car was

    Awsome car nothing wrong with in fact alot better than alot those crappy 4 wheel drive

    Lorrys people seem to be obessed with that tip over.

    its for cars 13 years and under that makes year 2000 not 1990

    So if you recently purchased a new vehicle does your current wof expire or is it automatically 3 years from initial date... Smashed mine off in the forest witha rockstrike somewhere other day damnit, never park it in town so not a worry at moment.

    Some of us can check our vehicles properly but how many of us can honestly say we get underneath and have a real decent nosey about? Testing station picked up perished rubber

    For new vechiles its been 1 year warrent for decades where have you been

    boots on steering rack once, while not a wof issue itself the guy told me it would turn into an expensive problem if not fixed soon. Its little things like that which make the current system ok to me. Just wait for the first highspeed crash on the motorway when some highflying corporate salesman has a tyre blowout and plays ping pong on the motorway. Something I saw often in UK with their longer check periods...
    A mate of mine was a rep for a packaging company, the kms and hours driving he did in commodore SV6 would have seen a truck driver arrested. Can asure you he never climbed under that wagon or did any thorough checks on it whilst driving it like he stole it.
    Well if you stubid engough to drive like that all power too you 6 month warrent cant change that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Anybody who needs a sticker to tell them their vehicle is "safe" shouldn't be allowed to own or operate one.
    Not much hair, what's there is gray, so I assume you're old? Your mother, assuming she is still with us, is probably pretty old too?

    Get her out in the driveway to see if her Suzuki Swift has cracks in the front chassis member will you. After she's raised her eye brows, she'll probably want to know what a front wotsit member is and how on earth she should get under there to inspect it.

    Then tell her because if she's not prepared to conduct proper safety checks personally, she shouldn't be driving. Once she has finished laughing her arse off, maybe she can knock some sense into you? I don't see how little old ladies etc can rely on any other system other than a WOF to periodically check the safety of their vehicles? Some have restricted mobility, even the easy things such as bending over to check their tyres aren't bald is an issue.

    I personally don't want to live in a New Zealand where personal transport is restricted to people who're competent and able bodied enough to check their own vehicles. Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Not much hair, what's there is gray, so I assume you're old? Your mother, assuming she is still with us, is probably pretty old too?

    Get her out in the driveway to see if her Suzuki Swift has cracks in the front chassis member will you. After she's raised her eye brows, she'll probably want to know what a front wotsit member is and how on earth she should get under there to inspect it.

    Then tell her because if she's not prepared to conduct proper safety checks personally, she shouldn't be driving. Once she has finished laughing her arse off, maybe she can knock some sense into you? I don't see how little old ladies etc can rely on any other system other than a WOF to periodically check the safety of their vehicles? Some have restricted mobility, even the easy things such as bending over to check their tyres aren't bald is an issue.

    I personally don't want to live in a New Zealand where personal transport is restricted to people who're competent and able bodied enough to check their own vehicles. Good luck with that.

    Little old ladies should be servicing their vehicles regularly, not hard for a garage to have a quick looksie while they are changing the oil is it? If people can't check their cars, then it's not hard for them to get someone else to! Why rely on a legal requirement to get your vehicle checked, it should be checked regularly regardless.

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    I thought perished steering boots would of been a WOF fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actungbaby View Post
    Well if you stubid engough to drive like that all power too you 6 month warrent cant change that
    If your going to reply with a quote do it properly instead of inserting your blurb inside mine...

    Just remember that tired sales rep with a distracting stomach ulcer might be about to slide across your side of the road on the next tarbleed wet corner... Anyone whose worked for a big company know they will defer any maintanance and expenses for as long as they can...

    As for the old lady comment above, yep few of them can afford the basics let alone car servicing and many wouldn't know a brake/steering fluid leak from an oil leak on the driveway...


    Another thing in general about the stats that only 2.6% in crashes have defects... wonder if thats because the ones that didn't have defects got them fixed because of a recent wof failure???

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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Little old ladies should be servicing their vehicles regularly, not hard for a garage to have a quick looksie while they are changing the oil is it? If people can't check their cars, then it's not hard for them to get someone else to! Why rely on a legal requirement to get your vehicle checked, it should be checked regularly regardless.
    Not hard, but it's time they'll have charge for. A quick looksie... tell me again what that includes? You've no idea of course, because that could mean anything. Given that, how about we outline a standard of what should be checked? Hey I know, let's call it a warrant of fitness.

    Why rely on a legal requirement? Because otherwise I'll jut check my vehicle myself, when and if it suits. Am I qualified to do that? Maybe.. maybe not... who would ever know? Will when it suits be once a week or once a decade? Who knows... but does not matter, I'm under no obligation. Given that, how about we outline a schedule for people to follow? Hey I know, let's call it a warrant of fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Another thing in general about the stats that only 2.6% in crashes have defects... wonder if thats because the ones that didn't have defects got them fixed because of a recent wof failure???
    Can't remember where I read it, but those sort of numbers are pretty common across all the European fleets too, which generally have yearly checks or less frequently.

    I think its quite telling how the only evidence in favor of frequent checks is either hypothetical or anecdotal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    only 2.6% in crashes have defects... wonder if thats because the ones that didn't have defects got them fixed because of a recent wof failure???
    I doubt it, the last time I looked there were more than 2.6% of defective cars that hadn't crashed.

    Obviously WoFs cause crashes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Why rely on a legal requirement? Because otherwise I'll jut check my vehicle myself, when and if it suits. Am I qualified to do that? Maybe.. maybe not... who would ever know? Will when it suits be once a week or once a decade? Who knows... but does not matter, I'm under no obligation. Given that, how about we outline a schedule for people to follow? Hey I know, let's call it a warrant of fitness.
    Maybe YOU can ... and qualified to do it too.

    But Fast food businesses make a fortune from people that can't ... or too fucking lazy to cook. You think THOSE people will check their vehicles on a regular basis ... if at all. They may whinge at the cost ... but know they will have to pay somebody to check it ...

    A regular ... legally required ... vehicle test, is a fair (for all) method. Not perfect ... but an option we can live with. They could come up with a worse system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Little old ladies should be servicing their vehicles regularly, not hard for a garage to have a quick looksie while they are changing the oil is it? If people can't check their cars, then it's not hard for them to get someone else to! Why rely on a legal requirement to get your vehicle checked, it should be checked regularly regardless.
    BECAUSE...read My earlier post.
    MANY people in this dumb arse country will NOT change a bald tyre/worn out steering part/brake pads/disk etc etc unless they HAVE to. I see this EVERY day (that I'm at work) and I'll bet everyone else that has anything to do with wofs does too....
    Look at how many come in at the end of the 28 days grace period to get a recheck, after failing on stuff and still driving around on it for a month.
    That's why.

    BTW, I've personally seen a Mitsi with a completely shot steering component at only 40,000 k's, about 6 months old, not that long ago....
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