My new KTM 1190 Adventure R

[paturoa]

There's a couple of very real downsides to all of this of course. First, the tricky electronics are soooo clever, they have you believing you're a far better rider than you actually are. Secondly, I've got to mortgage my kids so I can buy an "R" and my wife is going to shit bricks when she finds it parked in the garage. I'll win her over with a 390 Duke when they arrive

Chuck some decent 50/50 adventure tyres on the 21" and it would eat the 450 in a straight line. Corners would still have you fighting 230kgs vs 120, so I think the RMZ for going around corners.

For the dwonsides one is good for me, and the other is the same as you

I'm an "average" skilled rider at best, so I want the fancy smancy elecky gizmos to, I hope, extend my average time between bins. I have no delusions that I have the skills and reactions to handle 150hp when things go bad.

To the second part I tried the kid mortgage technique and failed. So it is just plain old hard saving money for a while yet.

[paturoa]

Here is Chris Birch playing in the sand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5uygEnUMyk

[White trash]

Here is Chris Birch playing in the sand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5uygEnUMyk

Thought you'd like that one.

How was The Brass? I didn't win Lotto so your bike's still here. For another week at least.

[paturoa]

Thought you'd like that one.

How was The Brass? I didn't win Lotto so your bike's still here. For another week at least.

Is that the vid you told me about? There were a couple that I found.

Brass was fecking windy!!!!!!!! http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130556609

[CBR4ME]

Saw this weapon in the weekend........Ouch !

[paturoa]

Saw this weapon in the weekend........Ouch !

Nice. Is that at the red bull practice track?

[Waihou Thumper]

One almost identical (different shod feet) was parked in my garage on Monday whilst we shot the shit and munched on a fruit loaf....
I even got to sit on it!
Had the Akrapovic, meaty bash plate and a very uncomfortable saddle!
I wanted the DR800 jump started but Clarkie was worried I might upset the computer and turn it into a $28000 toaster.....
So I looked forlornly as he rode off into the storm pending afternoon.....

[dino3310]

we shot the shit and munched on a fruit loaf....
I even got to sit on it!
...

reading between the lines

[10bikekid]

KTM 1190ADV Good and Evil all in one me thinks

Do I want one, hell yes

will I get one, good heavens no

anyway on a 100hp restricted off-road licence at the mo

[paturoa]

Well I got to throw my leg over a demonstrator R and took it for a short but informative ride. I left work early-ish yesterday and picked it up around 4:30pm. I mostly followed my normal commute route home, then managed to do Forest Hill rd into the Waitakeres, half way to Piha, half way along Anawhata rd (gravel) and home. This morning I took it to work as per normal and dropped it back at the dealer around 8am.

There are a few things that stuck in my head (in no particular order):

- It is right on the practical limit height wise for me. I often found that I had to do the dirt bike things and shuffle onto one butt cheek to get a good leg on the ground. Had a couple of moments early on when habit took over and I put my leg down and there was nothing.
- The suspenders on the R give a very jiggly ride compared to my strom which is MUCH smoother. It is fine over the larger bumbs and manholes etc, it just "jiggled" with the road surface undulations. I didn't check any of the compression or rebound damping but would definietly wind it back a few clicks from the setup that was on the test bike.
- There is a LOT of heat coming from the rear engine cylinder / zorst at low speeds onto the inner / lower thigh area. I've read some comments regarding this on overseas forums, and it will be a real issue in summer.
- The exhaust can mounting bracket had the same marks / issue as I'd noticed on the T version so that is an issue.
- I couldn't stop myself wicking it up as I was changing up the gears to enjoy the power, but was riding slower at cruise (suspect the screen was the issue - see next comment)
- The R screen is only good for keeping the air stream off the lower torso. The full wind was on my helmit which generated a lot more noise than the Strom's higher screen.
- The headlight is powerful on high beam but it is too narrow a beam (low beam is always on). When you're approaching and going around corners you can't see around the corner, just straight ahead into the ditch which is where you don't want to go!
- Pillion seat is rubbish. Seriously KTM sort your shit on the seat.
- The rider seat is much more comfortable than the T model as it doesn't have the ridges on the sides. It is still not a patch on the strom standard seat.
- I got sore wrists which was partly from me just not being relaxed, but mostly from the bend which turned my wrists inwards. I also prefer my levers a lot lower and will tweak and install riser / offsets to move my bars further up and back.
- The zorst can stays hot for a very long time.
- On the gravel road I gave it a bit of gas in street mode, but only in a straight. It just took off like a fast thing, without any wheel spin. I should have done that in capitals as I was surprised at just how fast it acclerated. There was also no obvious traction control intervention, it just acclerated like crazy. On any other bike the rear would have just spun up and snaked down the road.
- I stopped and changed to rain mode on the gravel and didn't notice much difference except the top end taperred off. Apparently it limits to 100hp in rain mode.
- It will happily do a gravel burn out when stationary with the front stoppers on. Just letting go of the front brake and it some how seamlessly takes off and the rear stops spinning. Some very well programmed TC there.
- I didn't like the clutch action at all. It took up fully in the last couple of millimeters of travel on the lever and made racy take offs a mess. I don;t recall it being like that on the T bike, so I'll put that down to how this bike was.
- The people at KTM who work out the accessory prices are closely related to the people who price BMW parts!
- The turn signal switch is too far away from the grip and requires you to partially release your grip for a left turn. My thumb is too short?
- The horn is without doubt the most pathetic, embarrising, and stupid pieces of shit I've every encounteered on a bike. meeeep meeep.
- I like the mirrors, good rear view and vibration free at all revs.

The bike in question only had 1700ks on the clock but already had a new rear tyre fitted. Suspect that part of the purchse budget should be rear tyres.

I'm sure I'll think of some more stuff after I post this, but most of my thinking will be consumed with how to position my "conversation" with Mrs P!

[JATZ]

Well I got to throw my leg over a demonstrator R and took it for a short but informative ride. I left work early-ish yesterday and picked it up around 4:30pm. I mostly followed my normal commute route home, then managed to do Forest Hill rd into the Waitakeres, half way to Piha, half way along Anawhata rd (gravel) and home. This morning I took it to work as per normal and dropped it back at the dealer around 8am.

There are a few things that stuck in my head (in no particular order)

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I'm sure I'll think of some more stuff after I post this, but most of my thinking will be consumed with how to position my "conversation" with Mrs P!

I reckon you should just buy one without permission from SWMBO
And because I'm a nice guy you can park it in my lock up for a couple of months, I'll even deliver it after that, and when questioned by Mrs P you can say..... " what new bike.... Oh that old thing..... I've had that for months"

I wouldn't do it for any one, but you bought me a beer at Rangitiki last year, so I owe you one

[paturoa]

I reckon you should just buy one without permission from SWMBO
And because I'm a nice guy you can park it in my lock up for a couple of months, I'll even deliver it after that, and when questioned by Mrs P you can say..... " what new bike.... Oh that old thing..... I've had that for months"

I wouldn't do it for any one, but you bought me a beer at Rangitiki last year, so I owe you one

If I didn't ask for permission I'd be parked in your lock up! And you'd want a me to buy you a whole lot of beers for that.

[10bikekid]

Well I got to throw my leg over a demonstrator R and took it for a short but informative ride. I left work early-ish yesterday and picked it up around 4:30pm. I mostly followed my normal commute route home, then managed to do Forest Hill rd into the Waitakeres, half way to Piha, half way along Anawhata rd (gravel) and home. This morning I took it to work as per normal and dropped it back at the dealer around 8am.

There are a few things that stuck in my head (in no particular order):

- It is right on the practical limit height wise for me. I often found that I had to do the dirt bike things and shuffle onto one butt cheek to get a good leg on the ground. Had a couple of moments early on when habit took over and I put my leg down and there was nothing.
- The suspenders on the R give a very jiggly ride compared to my strom which is MUCH smoother. It is fine over the larger bumbs and manholes etc, it just "jiggled" with the road surface undulations. I didn't check any of the compression or rebound damping but would definietly wind it back a few clicks from the setup that was on the test bike.
- There is a LOT of heat coming from the rear engine cylinder / zorst at low speeds onto the inner / lower thigh area. I've read some comments regarding this on overseas forums, and it will be a real issue in summer.
- The exhaust can mounting bracket had the same marks / issue as I'd noticed on the T version so that is an issue.
- I couldn't stop myself wicking it up as I was changing up the gears to enjoy the power, but was riding slower at cruise (suspect the screen was the issue - see next comment)
- The R screen is only good for keeping the air stream off the lower torso. The full wind was on my helmit which generated a lot more noise than the Strom's higher screen.
- The headlight is powerful on high beam but it is too narrow a beam (low beam is always on). When you're approaching and going around corners you can't see around the corner, just straight ahead into the ditch which is where you don't want to go!
- Pillion seat is rubbish. Seriously KTM sort your shit on the seat.
- The rider seat is much more comfortable than the T model as it doesn't have the ridges on the sides. It is still not a patch on the strom standard seat.
- I got sore wrists which was partly from me just not being relaxed, but mostly from the bend which turned my wrists inwards. I also prefer my levers a lot lower and will tweak and install riser / offsets to move my bars further up and back.
- The zorst can stays hot for a very long time.
- On the gravel road I gave it a bit of gas in street mode, but only in a straight. It just took off like a fast thing, without any wheel spin. I should have done that in capitals as I was surprised at just how fast it acclerated. There was also no obvious traction control intervention, it just acclerated like crazy. On any other bike the rear would have just spun up and snaked down the road.
- I stopped and changed to rain mode on the gravel and didn't notice much difference except the top end taperred off. Apparently it limits to 100hp in rain mode.
- It will happily do a gravel burn out when stationary with the front stoppers on. Just letting go of the front brake and it some how seamlessly takes off and the rear stops spinning. Some very well programmed TC there.
- I didn't like the clutch action at all. It took up fully in the last couple of millimeters of travel on the lever and made racy take offs a mess. I don;t recall it being like that on the T bike, so I'll put that down to how this bike was.
- The people at KTM who work out the accessory prices are closely related to the people who price BMW parts!
- The turn signal switch is too far away from the grip and requires you to partially release your grip for a left turn. My thumb is too short?
- The horn is without doubt the most pathetic, embarrising, and stupid pieces of shit I've every encounteered on a bike. meeeep meeep.
- I like the mirrors, good rear view and vibration free at all revs.

The bike in question only had 1700ks on the clock but already had a new rear tyre fitted. Suspect that part of the purchse budget should be rear tyres.

I'm sure I'll think of some more stuff after I post this, but most of my thinking will be consumed with how to position my "conversation" with Mrs P!

Sounds like your trying to convince yourself not to buy it.

Just say it, you want it but your not allowed

[10bikekid]

Well I got to throw my leg over a demonstrator R and took it for a short but informative ride. I left work early-ish yesterday and picked it up around 4:30pm. I mostly followed my normal commute route home, then managed to do Forest Hill rd into the Waitakeres, half way to Piha, half way along Anawhata rd (gravel) and home. This morning I took it to work as per normal and dropped it back at the dealer around 8am.

the grip and requires you to partially release your grip for a left turn. My thumb is too short?
- The horn is without doubt the most pathetic, embarrising, and stupid pieces of shit I've every encounteered on a bike. meeeep meeep.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- I like the mirrors, good rear view and vibration free at all revs.

The bike in question only had 1700ks on the clock but already had a new rear tyre fitted. Suspect that part of the purchse budget should be rear tyres.

I'm sure I'll think of some more stuff after I post this, but most of my thinking will be consumed with how to position my "conversation" with Mrs P!

Sounds like your trying to convince yourself not to buy it.

Just say it, you want it but your not allowed

[paturoa]

Just say it, you want it but your not allowed

I've now got "approval" from Mrs P, so will be visiting the bike shop today.