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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Falcon View Post
    I'm now offically a trials bike owner. thanks to everyone for the tips, you guys are real swell

    I'm hoping to have it delivered in time for a little excursion to Wiaroa next weekend. I expect i'm in for a bit of learning curve but should be a lot of fun learning new ways to fall off a motorcycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Looks like a 2008 Beta Rev 3...
    thats correct 250 two smoke....reliable handy we bike by all accounts, guess I'll find out though!

    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Congrats Night Falcon.

    I'm keen as mustard to here how you go on the new bike. Will do wonders for your glutes & thighs.....

    Keep the thread going with up dates pleeeeeeease.
    will be my pleasure....I hope. Am taking her for its maiden (to me) voyage this weekend with gopro...watch this space

    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    hey you've been ripped off, there's no kickstarter
    these trials bikes are all wrong arn't they? kick starter and chain on the wrong sides, no seat, no tank, funny tires; why would anyone bother with them???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1pSbu4a5g
    ....wherezz that track go

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    Yeah my old Beta aircooled was the same but with the added advantage of being a pig to kick over (GGs are RHS kicker but RH kickstand, had to be something odd). I've ridden later Betas & they start fine & are great bikes. Think you've made a good choice.

    Just don't go putting 12psi in the tyres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Just don't go putting 12psi in the tyres.
    Never had them new fangled tubeless tyres, what'd ya reckon, about 8 for trail riding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
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    Shit, I never went under 4 in competition.
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    Depends what you call trail riding I guess, but I tended to ride short distances to places i'd ride & just run what I needed with no drama.

    A mate was talking of using 2 & 1/2, heck I dunno I'm not an expert on latest tyres but 3 rear & 4 front worked fine for a knock around bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Depends what you call trail riding I guess, but I tended to ride short distances to places i'd ride & just run what I needed with no drama.

    A mate was talking of using 2 & 1/2, heck I dunno I'm not an expert on latest tyres but 3 rear & 4 front worked fine for a knock around bike.
    it just don't seem right to run a tire at anything less that 18psi...got to find a way to change my mind set from trail to trial
    ....wherezz that track go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Falcon View Post
    it just don't seem right to run a tire at anything less that 18psi...got to find a way to change my mind set from trail to trial
    I get the shakes and sweats letting the MT43's down to 12f/8r on the 120kg TT350.

    Shinko 705's (quite a bit lower profile than the MT43's) on the TT get let down to 14f/12r in the gnarly stuff.
    On the DR, they get let down to 20f/18r.

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    I use 4 if traction is good, 3 if I'm looking for traction. If it's just trail riding it's whatever suits you - start at 8. But what's the point, you have a trials bike, use it as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Depends what you call trail riding I guess, but I tended to ride short distances to places i'd ride & just run what I needed with no drama.

    A mate was talking of using 2 & 1/2, heck I dunno I'm not an expert on latest tyres but 3 rear & 4 front worked fine for a knock around bike.
    I was thinking Maungatuks, slime and sharp rocks, I've trashed a Michelin and a brand new IRC pissing around up there so I'm probably a bit conservative.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    I get the shakes and sweats letting the MT43's down to 12f/8r on the 120kg TT350.

    Shinko 705's (quite a bit lower profile than the MT43's) on the TT get let down to 14f/12r in the gnarly stuff.
    On the DR, they get let down to 20f/18r.
    Have heard of them MT43s, are road legal?! Must have a much stiffer sidewall than a Michelin Comp rear, I'd roll the tyre off the rim cornering at anything like road speeds.

    And that R3 Beta is about half the weight of the TT, makes a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Have heard of them MT43s, are road legal?! Must have a much stiffer sidewall than a Michelin Comp rear, I'd roll the tyre off the rim cornering at anything like road speeds.

    And that R3 Beta is about half the weight of the TT, makes a huge difference.
    Yep, road legal. Stiff sidewall and very high profile. As in 5cm taller than the 100/100 knobbly that was on it. Equal to 1 tooth on the front. Had to add 2 links to the chain to get it away from the front of the swingarm.

    First trials rear I played with was an 803 that was a bit... dodgy... when cornering...

    Next rear is going to be a lower profile road legal Mitas trials. They do 2 different ones and at a good price too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Yep, road legal. Stiff sidewall and very high profile. As in 5cm taller than the 100/100 knobbly that was on it. Equal to 1 tooth on the front. Had to add 2 links to the chain to get it away from the front of the swingarm.
    Sounds like what used to be called a trials universal. Perhaps in an ideal world not made from pertified chewing gum.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    First trials rear I played with was an 803 that was a bit... dodgy... when cornering...
    Same. S'not as if I need help with dodgy from a tyre, either.

    Guess it's difficult to make a tyre that doesn't fold under at a brisk trot and still does this:

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    The MT43 is not a trials universal, just slightly stiffer sidewalls and harder compound, but still in the spirit of comp trials tyre. IRC do a DOT of their comp tyre too. They used to use comp trials tyres for flattrack in NZ, still do in OZ, running somewhere between 8 and 12psi - I've used these things on a dirttrack, there is superb grip and crazy lean angles...you can push these tyres way beyond what you think is sane. I used to use comp trials tyres on the road, being young and living all facets of life over the edge, I found the trials tyres could be pushed to wheelspin and sideways on the seal with total confidence.

    Aussies using trials tyres on the rear, we used them fron and rear in NZ - rear on the front. Remember, this is where Casey started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    The MT43 is not a trials universal, just slightly stiffer sidewalls and harder compound, but still in the spirit of comp trials tyre. IRC do a DOT of their comp tyre too. They used to use comp trials tyres for flattrack in NZ, still do in OZ, running somewhere between 8 and 12psi - I've used these things on a dirttrack, there is superb grip and crazy lean angles...you can push these tyres way beyond what you think is sane. I used to use comp trials tyres on the road, being young and living all facets of life over the edge, I found the trials tyres could be pushed to wheelspin and sideways on the seal with total confidence.
    A friend used Mich trials Comp Xply tyres on the his road legal EXC 400 until quite recently, same compounds as the radial and apparently they're still available. He was forever pissing around with pressures, though.
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