Yamaha R150 or Hyosung GTR250?

**j_redley** · 14th May 2013, 17:32

I'm looking at getting a new bike. Like, new from a dealer that hasn't been ridden before.

I've had my learners for some time now, and will probably for some time until I get around to doing Restricted and full licence.

My last bike (2007) was a KR 150 (2 stroke) that I used to ride around the port hills until I came undone on a corner.

The only other bike I had ridden was T.W.R's ZXR750 I think, and that was 100m up and back down the road :-p and the same deal with my bosses Ducati 1000.

So I'm considering both the Yamaha and Hyosung. Obviously the Hyo is a little larger than the yamahama but I dont mind the small bike's in terms of handling etc. My only concern is how useful it would be on the open road, as Im quite keen on doing some rides from W(h)anganui up to Taupo and down to Wellington.

So... thoughts on both. Obviously the 150 is considerably cheaper to buy too...

**Brayden** · 14th May 2013, 17:46

I love 2 strokes. But they are shit for long distance riding bro my old rg 150 was almost sitting on power band crusing down the motorway at 110/120. Now although I hate Hyosungs, I gotta say they are growing on me as they look great and seem to be getting every year, plus the new models look really nice. If youre buying new get the hyosung not the 150

**j_redley** · 14th May 2013, 17:48

The Yamaha R150 is a 4 stroke bike... it was my old 150 that was a 2.

**Maha** · 14th May 2013, 17:53

For what you want to do?...the Hyosung.
I had a R150 as a loaner for a day or so and while it was fun enough through the twisties, the open road stuff was god awful. Cramped and uncomfortable come to mind.

**EJK** · 14th May 2013, 17:57

+1 for Hyo 250.

You can belly flat lie on the gas tank and sleep on the way.

**Mushu** · 14th May 2013, 18:41

I bought a ninja 250 brand new, and I regret it, it was a great bike, I loved owning it and would recommend you consider one (sounds like it would fit your needs) but the amount of money I lost after owning it for 6 months and selling it on seemed like a waste. I won't buy another brand new bike until I decide on something I intend to keep forever. I would recommend you decide on a bike and then go for a good, low kilometer one off trademe

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**sil3nt** · 14th May 2013, 18:51

Originally Posted by Mushu

I bought a ninja 250 brand new, and I regret it, it was a great bike, I loved owning it and would recommend you consider one (sounds like it would fit your needs) but the amount of money I lost after owning it for 6 months and selling it on seemed like a waste. I won't buy another brand new bike until I decide on something I intend to keep forever. I would recommend you decide on a bike and then go for a good, low kilometer one off trademe

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^this

Second hand prices are less than half that of brand new for a hyo and I highly doubt you are going to gain anything from buying a new one.

**Glowerss** · 14th May 2013, 19:04

Originally Posted by Mushu

I bought a ninja 250 brand new, and I regret it, it was a great bike, I loved owning it and would recommend you consider one (sounds like it would fit your needs) but the amount of money I lost after owning it for 6 months and selling it on seemed like a waste. I won't buy another brand new bike until I decide on something I intend to keep forever. I would recommend you decide on a bike and then go for a good, low kilometer one off trademe

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+1 to this.

The R125 is a cheaply made underpowered pile of poo. It'll drive you bonkers within a month or two.

And the Hyosung will depreciate like a stone. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-574484651.htm 1 year old 10k KM and it's lost 3k+ off its value already. Not to mention hyosungs are still a bit poo and boring bikes!

Look at some LAMS bikes. Something like http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-585176310.htm would be heaps nicer to ride, would keep its value far far better, and would be more reliable then the Hyosung. The $3000 difference to the Hyosung can be spent on riding gear and TRAINING!

Buying a new bike as a beginner is a waste of dosh. If that's what you REALLY want don't let anyone tell you different, but from a logical standpoint it isn't worth doing. Save your pennies for when you get your full! Invest in training instead

**j_redley** · 14th May 2013, 19:11

Originally Posted by Glowerss

+1 to this.

The R125 is a cheaply made underpowered pile of poo. It'll drive you bonkers within a month or two.

And the Hyosung will depreciate like a stone. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-574484651.htm 1 year old 10k KM and it's lost 3k+ off its value already. Not to mention hyosungs are still a bit poo and boring bikes!

Look at some LAMS bikes. Something like http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-585176310.htm would be heaps nicer to ride, would keep its value far far better, and would be more reliable then the Hyosung. The $3000 difference to the Hyosung can be spent on riding gear and TRAINING!

Buying a new bike as a beginner is a waste of dosh. If that's what you REALLY want don't let anyone tell you different, but from a logical standpoint it isn't worth doing. Save your pennies for when you get your full! Invest in training instead

Theres a couple of things I like about the idea of a new bike. The first is the ability to finance, the second is the warrantee.

I like the look of that 500 though. It doesn't look too big and its the kind of thing I'd be interested in. Hmm, now I have to skip off and browse trademe. Are there any other LAM's bikes that people would recommend?

**Erelyes** · 14th May 2013, 19:20

Originally Posted by j_redley

Theres a couple of things I like about the idea of a new bike. The first is the ability to finance, the second is the warrantee.

I like the look of that 500 though. It doesn't look too big and its the kind of thing I'd be interested in. Hmm, now I have to skip off and browse trademe. Are there any other LAM's bikes that people would recommend?

If you want finance and a warranty, buy a second hand from a dealer.

I purchased a 2008 Scorpio from a dealer for $3k. I didn't even bother haggling them, they said 3k, I said OK. It had 2900km or so on the clock. They are $4289 new.

The Scorpio is OK for open road. Any small single will be a bit buzzy and gutless though.

My current plan is to upgrade to a Ninja 300 after I get my restricted. By that time I should have developed a bit more skill to lower the risk of dropping it - I have already done a couple minor things at the lights (stalling etc) that 'might' have seen me drop something more than the 130kg scorpio. The Ninja is a twin-cyl with roughly twice the power (plus fairings) so will be better on the open road. I would recommend you go the same route. Admittedly the 300 may be out of your price range based on your two options thus far.

**Glowerss** · 14th May 2013, 20:08

Originally Posted by j_redley

Theres a couple of things I like about the idea of a new bike. The first is the ability to finance, the second is the warrantee.

I like the look of that 500 though. It doesn't look too big and its the kind of thing I'd be interested in. Hmm, now I have to skip off and browse trademe. Are there any other LAM's bikes that people would recommend?

I absolutely fucking can't stand Coleman's, as they're a right bunch of twats to deal with.

But if you're insistent on buying from a dealer and have the financials to do so, Coleman's has imported some good LAMS bikes.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701656.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-581443110.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701570.htm

Those are good LAMS bikes. Still on the pricey side, but far better choices then a new hyodung which will lose all of its value.

Red Baron has this:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-310633760.htm Supposibly a good bike. I don't care much for the style (those exhausts

) but apparently quite good little bikes. And it's a pretty damn good value for $3800 from a stealership. Also well worth a look.

There's also a few 250s worth considering. The hornet I've got is a dream to ride and I certainly can't see upgrading it for any of the LAMS bikes currently out there.

Originally Posted by Erelyes

If you want finance and a warranty, buy a second hand from a dealer.

I purchased a 2008 Scorpio from a dealer for $3k. I didn't even bother haggling them, they said 3k, I said OK. It had 2900km or so on the clock. They are $4289 new.

The Scorpio is OK for open road. Any small single will be a bit buzzy and gutless though.

My current plan is to upgrade to a Ninja 300 after I get my restricted. By that time I should have developed a bit more skill to lower the risk of dropping it - I have already done a couple minor things at the lights (stalling etc) that 'might' have seen me drop something more than the 130kg scorpio. The Ninja is a twin-cyl with roughly twice the power (plus fairings) so will be better on the open road. I would recommend you go the same route. Admittedly the 300 may be out of your price range based on your two options thus far.

Ninja 300? BARF!

There are far better ways to burn $10,000 my friend.

**Drew** · 14th May 2013, 20:42

Originally Posted by Glowerss

I absolutely fucking can't stand Coleman's, as they're a right bunch of twats to deal with.

But if you're insistent on buying from a dealer and have the financials to do so, Coleman's has imported some good LAMS bikes.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701656.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-581443110.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701570.htm

Those are good LAMS bikes. Still on the pricey side, but far better choices then a new hyodung which will lose all of its value.

Red Baron has this:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-310633760.htm Supposibly a good bike. I don't care much for the style (those exhausts

) but apparently quite good little bikes. And it's a pretty damn good value for $3800 from a stealership. Also well worth a look.

There's also a few 250s worth considering. The hornet I've got is a dream to ride and I certainly can't see upgrading it for any of the LAMS bikes currently out there.

Ninja 300? BARF!

There are far better ways to burn $10,000 my friend.

Those are some cool and different bikes. Didn't even know they were still manufacturing 400s.

**j_redley** · 14th May 2013, 20:45

I didn't realise they made 400's still either. As much as I hate the front of the Hyosung, Im also considering the full fairing 650, but then theres the Suzuki 650 as well. So many nice bikes, so little pennies.

The store here has a Hyosung 250 GT last years run out model with Tail Tidy, Tinted Screen and screamer exhaust for $6999. Im thinking this isnt a bad price.

**Drew** · 14th May 2013, 20:50

Originally Posted by j_redley

I didn't realise they made 400's still either. As much as I hate the front of the Hyosung, Im also considering the full fairing 650, but then theres the Suzuki 650 as well. So many nice bikes, so little pennies.

The GSX650f thing. Fuck that! Near $15,000 is stupid money for that bike.

The Hyosung LAMs bike goes real good according to my brother who has ridden them, (and sells them), and are super easy to take out the restriction come full licence time.

**j_redley** · 14th May 2013, 21:18

Originally Posted by Drew

The GSX650f thing. Fuck that! Near $15,000 is stupid money for that bike.

The Hyosung LAMs bike goes real good according to my brother who has ridden them, (and sells them), and are super easy to take out the restriction come full licence time.

How do the cops know which have the LAMS restriction and which don't?