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    First timer

    Hey all i'm looking at getting my bike license and buying a bike as gas prices are getting to high.
    My questions are...
    Do sit my learners license then buy the bike or can i buy a bike with my car license?
    How much should i spend on my first bike (have only ever been on a bike as a passenger)

    What courses in auckland should i take and where (i live in new lynn)

    noob questions i know but i do have to start somewhere

    Btw i have always wanted to own my own bike i guess i've just be lazy.

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    Welcome to the site Snake, I'm sure you'll find answers to everything you need to know here, and probably some answers you wish you didn't know. If you're planning on financing a bike you will need your license as finance companies usually require the vehicle to be insured, no license no legit insurance. Your car license will only allow you to ride a bike under 50cc (I think). Banks are different in that yu can get an unsecured personal loan and buy what you want, however if you drop it or get hit you may run the risk of paying for something you don't have. Ie, bike gets written off but you still have to pay for it.

    I would suggest sitting your learners license and getting a very cheap bike to learn on. Baby steps are very important on bikes. Buy something too powerful and expensive and you'll just end up being intimadated by it, too scared to discover it properly. Without knowing your financial situation, I would suggest pending around $1000-1500 on your first bike. Please don't forget the costs of riding gear, the cost of ownership of a bike is not only the bike itself, but proper boots, gloves, jacket and pants, and of course a helmet. Buy the best gear you can afford, you will never regret it. Believe me, and almost everyone else on this site. Sneakers, jeans, and a ratty pair of holed gloves will do nothing for you if you do happen to drop it, which with you being a learner I'm afraid to say has a higher chance of happening.

    I'm not trying to scare you off, just letting you know what's involved. This is a great lifestyle, one that you will hopefully enjoy for a long time. Keeping your feet firmly planted on the ground will only increase the chance of you being involved for much longer.

    As far as courses up you way go, I'll let one of your locals answer that question. Best of luck, don't be scared to ask anything as most of us are here to help when we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Rogers
    Hey all i'm looking at getting my bike license and buying a bike as gas prices are getting to high.
    My questions are...
    Do sit my learners license then buy the bike or can i buy a bike with my car license?
    How much should i spend on my first bike (have only ever been on a bike as a passenger)

    What courses in auckland should i take and where (i live in new lynn)

    noob questions i know but i do have to start somewhere

    Btw i have always wanted to own my own bike i guess i've just be lazy.
    LOOK AT MY PROFILE PIC ,ITS A TR50 , IT CAN BE RIDDEN ON A CAR LICENCE,
    WELCOME TO THE SITE AND STAY AWAY FROM ZED

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    Thanks for the welcome guys and the quick response

    i will keep ya updated on my progress

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    Welcome, Snake.

    As onearmedbandit said: get the right gear. You may have no intention of coming a cropper but you never know what the other bastards on the road have planned for the day. Then there's good, old-fashioned inexperience coupled with dicey conditions - wet road, car cutting you off suddenly (which you might have avoided with a bit more experience).

    You'll learn a lot - how to be more aware of your surroundings than the average person in a cage, how to multitask to the point you'll be braking before you even consciously realise you were at risk, etc, etc. It can be a rally enjoyable time. Don't go mad - like spend vast amounts of money or buy a suped-up rocket - get yourself something that will teach you to ride without killing you or terrifying all the fun out of you and that will go the distance - suffice from Learner's Licence all the way through your Restricted.

    There are lots of threads here on preferred/recommended learners bikes and what people think is the best gear. In the end you make up your own mind.

    The important things are to make sure you have what you need and they are within your budget - an uninsured bike is probably outside everyone's budget as it sucks to be off the road trying to afford repairs because some bugger downed your bike in the New World carpark.
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    Welcome to KiwiBiker Snake Rogers

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    Well i just enroled in a defense riding course today for the 27th of this month so i can then sit my learners license.

    I will try not to bore you guys with my progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Rogers
    Do sit my learners license then buy the bike or can i buy a bike with my car license?
    How much should i spend on my first bike (have only ever been on a bike as a passenger)

    What courses in auckland should i take and where (i live in new lynn)

    you can buy the bike without a license if you are doing ca$h, but if you need HP, you will need to sit the tests. Suzuki GN250's are great bikes to learn / commute on , and you can usually find great prices on them ( even new at $2995 + orc)

    i use Doug Swanson for all my new riders.. his # is 09 416-5096
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    Just remember. See that person in the car, there . ANY person, ANY car. he or she WANTS TO KILL YOU. Truly. Remember that and you won't go too far wrong.

    You're not paranoid. The bastiges ARE out to get you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    Just remember. See that person in the car, there . ANY person, ANY car. he or she WANTS TO KILL YOU. Truly. Remember that and you won't go too far wrong.

    You're not paranoid. The bastiges ARE out to get you
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    Check out www.RiderSkills.co.nz - Just up the road from you at Rosebank road.

    Best of luck for years of happy riding!
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    Maybe we could have a sticky thread for all the new riders needing to know how to go about getting their licence etc.

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    I like the idea IndeSkyz. (in the skies? in disguise?? Masked but high??!)

    I know I asked some fairly similar questions back when I was starting.

    Snake: I purchased my bike (GN250) and had to put up with staring at it for a week until I got my lisence. But what I did was do the 'learn to ride' course (seriously, I had no idea where the indicators were or ANYTHING! Clutch you say? There are gears? *blonde*) and then ended that with the Basic Skills Cert. I sat on a GN125 I think (WHAT? The others get a 150 and I get a 125!??! What're you telling me?). After that, I popped down the local library, read the road code a bit - practised the questions so I could figure out what my weak points were, and then went to the AA. ALl in one day.

    THEN, and ONLY then, did I get astride my bike. And rode her 20kms.

    Good luck dude. And happy ing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Rogers
    Hey all i'm looking at getting my bike license and buying a bike as gas prices are getting to high.
    My questions are...
    Do sit my learners license then buy the bike or can i buy a bike with my car license?
    How much should i spend on my first bike (have only ever been on a bike as a passenger)

    What courses in auckland should i take and where (i live in new lynn)

    noob questions i know but i do have to start somewhere

    Btw i have always wanted to own my own bike i guess i've just be lazy.

    hey Snake.. pop by Colemans Suzuki when you can and i will give you a booklet on getting your bike ticket ( book produced by MTA.. great read.. lotta info)

    that goes for anyone wanting to get their tag
    Life is tough. It's tougher when you're stupid

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    welcome aboard the site Snake, good luck with gettin a bike
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