eBay rocks

[Madness]

Not too sure tbh, not you anyway. There just seems to be an implied theme in a lot of these threads that NZ'rs have a duty to support local business because local can provide additional services; which the customer doesn't actually want, much less want to pay for.

We don't have a duty to support local business at all. We do however have a responsibility to support local businesses wherever viable if we as consumers want to retain a local option that resembles anything at all like we have currently.

Cock up there doesn't give a fuck and why should he? It's not like this is his home.

[Madness]

Nope, note a kiwi. I do get along with a lot of them them. It seems I don't get along with you which is a good thing. Does not surprise me though because probably most kiwis don't care for you much either. Also, no need to be so formal and sign your name at the end of your comment. Or is that something you are hoping to get. Trademe has a personal dating section I think and you would be supporting local business too.

I don't give a fuck who cares for me, it's not like I'm incontinent or a retarded American who needs special care. You've used the dating site then? I bet it all goes well until you open that big stupid mouth of yours, then you're back off to the whorehouse where you'd get sexual favours for money, if only from the ugly desperate ones.

[Madness]

We're not all rich enough to pay the highest price for everything we want.

It's alright Smokey, one day you'll earn grown-up wages.

[bogan]

We don't have a duty to support local business at all. We do however have a responsibility to support local businesses wherever viable if we as consumers want to retain a local option at all.

Cock up there doesn't give a fuck and why should he? It's not like this is his home.

Exactly, we get added value when we spend locally, but in many cases (as per OP) the added value doesn't come near to the extra cost, so we buy from overseas; I don't think retailers have a right to bitch and moan in those situations.

In other news, I'm exporting a bunch of A3 laminated posters soon, cos apparently its cheaper to get em made here and send em to the US than it is to get them made over there. So there are still local businesses competitive on the world market.

[Madness]

I don't think retailers have a right to bitch and moan in those situations.

Again, I don't see them bitching or moaning. I see them closing uo shop, permanently.

In other news, I'm exporting a bunch of A3 laminated posters soon, cos apparently its cheaper to get em made here and send em to the US than it is to get them made over there. So there are still local businesses competitive on the world market.

Great, when do you open your retail outlet? Otherwise that's pretty irrelevant I would have thought.

[Digitdion]

I don't like your cock at all, or you for that matter. I'm suprised you had the intellect to think of it actually, are you sure a Kiwi didn't think of it?

I reckon you should be deported with an attitude like that. Fuck knows, we wouldn't be missing anything with you gone.

Cock.

Here we go again. You will never win people over by labeling them numpties(in another similar thread) or telling them they should be deported. You are clearly a hypocrite. On one hand you slam people for shopping on he web from overseas. Then you admit that you do the same.

Get over it! In a perfect world we would all support the local dealers what ever they charged us. Bugger, it ain't a perfect.

Try looking at things this way. All of the bikers in New Zealand buy locally on there existing wages. No one can then afford to actually own a bike any more. Biking becomes the domain of the rich. A fraction of bikes now on the road. Nearly all bike shops go broke.
The same result as your argument regarding buying overseas.

[SMOKEU]

It's alright Smokey, one day you'll earn grown-up wages.

Even with a reasonable income, the majority of people in NZ still struggle to get by financially and don't have large wads of cash to blow just for the sake of it.

[Madness]

You are clearly a hypocrite. On one hand you slam people for shopping on he web from overseas. Then you admit that you do the same.

You got a link to that, Einstein?

When are you fuckwits going to realise it's not just about motorcycle shops?

[Madness]

Even with a reasonable income, the majority of people in NZ still struggle to get by financially and don't have large wads of cash to blow just for the sake of it.

Yes, and the same applies to those (few) remaining in the motorcycle retail industry. Never mind, soon they'll all be on the dole & we won't need to worry about them any more, eh?

[speeding_ant]

Consumers are lazy, and now with the internet we're getting lazier. Courier to the door on parts not requiring any after sales service or presales knowledge is quite handy. Most bike shops simply don't offer this in a cost effective manner.

However, all my gear/helmets/tyres/brake rotors/oil/filters come from bike shops.

The only ones really winning are the courier companies. Bike shops should shift direction. I'd buy something if it were delivered by motorbike

[speeding_ant]

Yes, and the same applies to those (few) remaining in the motorcycle retail industry. Never mind, soon they'll all be on the dole & we won't need to worry about them any more, eh?

Take it up with Mr Key then... Though, I want some of what you're earning...

[ducatilover]

Yes, and the same applies to those (few) remaining in the motorcycle retail industry. Never mind, soon they'll all be on the dole & we won't need to worry about them any more, eh?

I'm in for some money making if shops fall over, with servicing. However, I doubt that servicing will fall over. Retail is on a downward spiral though and I honestly don't think we can do anything about it unless we are prepared to spend much more money buying locally.

[Digitdion]

Even with a reasonable income, the majority of people in NZ still struggle to get by financially and don't have large wads of cash to blow just for the sake of it.

Exactly! And if we do have some money to blow on the bike, in a lot of cases we buy from the cheapest source. Whether that be here in NZ(hopefully) or the states or Germany or where ever.
Some times we buy from the not the cheapest source.
At the end of the day it's a free world, and we can do buy from where ever we chose.

[Madness]

Retail is on a downward spiral though and I honestly don't think we can do anything about it unless we are prepared to spend much more money buying locally.

That sort of defeatist attitude is the problem in a nutshell. I'm not trying to win anyone over, convert them or even make them like me, couldn't care less. I give a shit about this country and it's people, who are only going to prosper if we support each other in the modern global world.

Fuck it, let's all follow the advice of our resident American expert. Fuck the local retailers completely, nothing but a bunch of cunts.

Where does that leave us? At the mercy of the Yanks, that's where.

[Madness]

At the end of the day it's a free world, and we can do buy from where ever we chose.

I agree with you. Send your hard-earned dollars wherever you want. Just don't come back crying when this country ends up completely fucked.

I'm still waiting for the link that proves me to be a hypocrite. Or are you full of shit as well?