eBay rocks

[speeding_ant]

Jesus you're thick. You try telling the retailers yourself when there's none left.

Not thick, just having a laugh.

I buy locally, for the exact reasons you're fighting for (just that I'm not being an aggressive prick about it), unless it's quite obvious that I'm lining the pocket of the 10%.

Now, instead of fighting on the internet, how about you figure out how to distribute wealth away from that 10% so the rest of us can spend it. Because buying stuff locally doesn't usually help there... who gets the lions share of the money in the end..........

[Digitdion]

Jesus you're thick. You try telling the retailers yourself when there's none left.

Madness, bloody hell, there will always be retailers. The question is what shape or form,they are in.
Change in inevitable.
Are you still wearing a mullet? Things change. That's what a lot of us are trying to get across to you. Retail is dynamic. Stay static and you may well get passed by the competition.
Whether you like it or not we are in a global market. That will only increase moving forward. It's called free trade. And for the record none of us set it up. You are talking to, and (arguing and abusing) with the wrong people!

[ducatilover]

Madness has a point, no reason to buy overseas on small items that you don't save much on. I buy my fork seals locally, and chains, brake pads etc.
But, when I can bring in an OE gasket set for a GN or DR for $9US instead of paying a shade over $100 for the same set from Suzuki NZ, I draw the line.
Or piston kits, big saving to import a NOS piston from the U.K, States or the land of cheap wages.

There are people importing stuff like KOSO and Trailtech gauges and selling them for double the overseas price, I think that's properly fucked.

[speeding_ant]

Madness has a point, no reason to buy overseas on small items that you don't save much on. I buy my fork seals locally, and chains, brake pads etc.
But, when I can bring in an OE gasket set for a GN or DR for $9US instead of paying a shade over $100 for the same set from Suzuki NZ, I draw the line.
Or piston kits, big saving to import a NOS piston from the U.K, States or the land of cheap wages.

There are people importing stuff like KOSO and Trailtech gauges and selling them for double the overseas price, I think that's properly fucked.

Exactly. I'm not sure who exactly is arguing against this here.

I think Madness just got mad....

[ducatilover]

Exactly. I'm not sure who exactly is arguing against this here.

I think Madness just got mad....

You're all cunts


(just helping the thread)

[Madness]

Not thick, just having a laugh.

I think it could be a bit of both, come on admit it.

I buy locally, for the exact reasons you're fighting for (just that I'm not being an aggressive prick about it), unless it's quite obvious that I'm lining the pocket of the 3%.

So let's not confront the issue head on and discuss it like adults then? Let's all carry on agreeing that eBay is great and we'll buy all sorts of stuff online and avoid taxes. Let's all watch the bike shops closing down, one by one until there's virtually none left. It's not my fault, Jack.

If you think I'm an aggressive prick you're a noob.

Again, if you're good with that possibility then just say so. Are we good to go without bike shops in this country?

Now, instead of fighting on the internet, how about you figure out how to distribute wealth away from that 3% so the rest of us can spend it. Because buying stuff locally doesn't usually help there... who gets the lions share of the money in the end..........

I've read this bit a couple of times and I'm not going to bother with it really other than to give it an F.

[speeding_ant]

You're all cunts


(just helping the thread)

Wankers!

[Digitdion]

You're all cunts


(just helping the thread)

Classic! And hypocrites!

[speeding_ant]

I think it could be a bit of both, come on admit it.



So let's not confront the issue head on and discuss it like adults then? Let's all carry on agreeing that eBay is great and we'll buy all sorts of stuff online and avoid taxes. Let's all watch the bike shops closing down, one by one until there's virtually none left. It's not my fault, Jack.

If you think I'm an aggressive prick you're a noob.

Again, if you're good with that possibility then just say so. Are we good to go without bike shops in this country?




I've read this bit a couple of times and I'm not going to bother with it really other than to give it an F.

Yes, you got exactly what I meant (wrote) from my post.











Guys, I'm not sure he knows how to read...

[jonbuoy]

I don't know if its possible to stop it. Supermarkets and shopping malls killed the butchers and bakers and high street shops. Online shopping is now killing the malls. Supermarkets and some even small retailers have adapted and offer online services. The biggest issue for a lot of people is convenience, trying to find someone who's interested in ordering that part you need for your bike can be difficult. A few clicks at home after work and the part is ordered and on its way, then you realise you don't want to waste your day off chasing your tail and just click the buy now.

[Madness]

Madness, bloody hell, there will always be retailers. The question is what shape or form,they are in.
Change in inevitable.
Are you still wearing a mullet? Things change. That's what a lot of us are trying to get across to you. Retail is dynamic. Stay static and you may well get passed by the competition.
Whether you like it or not we are in a global market. That will only increase moving forward. It's called free trade. And for the record none of us set it up. You are talking to, and (arguing and abusing) with the wrong people!

Sorry I've hurt your feelings. The bike shops that have closed down are not coming back, they're not in a dynamic state at all. Free trade, blah, blah; yes, it's all part of it. This is what it comes down to for me, like it or lump it. People are discussing the issue and for that I will not apologise.

Do you think if local retailers were turning over more product that there's a chance they'd be able to reduce costs?
Do you think if the costs were reduced and there was still competition, both locally & overseas that prices could come down?
Do you think that the problem could be partly a mindset of consumers and that small changes could collectively make a significant difference?

I do.

[Dangsta]

Has anyone in this thread saved only $4.95 when buying from overseas? It's more like $495.

Bought a Gibson Les Paul Silverburst overseas and saved about $1500. Did the same with a Gibson Les Paul Studio (worn maple) and saved about $900. Got a windscreen for my old bike and saved a couple of hundred. Buy all my Vans shoes direct from the States and save at least $60 per pair (I've got seven pairs so that's at least $420). Last trip, bought a State Contender fixed gear bike. Cost me $630USD and $35 in excess baggage. I can't even put a number on how much I saved on that one but it was probably my biggest saving yet. Got a few Brixton hats as well at $35USD so saved around $60NZ on each hat. If it was just a few bucks extra then no worries, I go local. I don't for a second feel guilty because there's no way I could afford to buy a Gibson or a custom fixed gear in a New Zealand and I wouldn't pay over a hundy for a hat or one-fiddy for a pair of kicks when I know what they cost in the US. That's just daft and I don't have that kind of cash. The only way I could have the kind of stuff that I do is by getting it shipped from overseas or buying it while I'm on holiday. Just sayin.

[speeding_ant]

Do you think if local retailers were turning over more product that there's a chance they'd be able to reduce costs?
Do you think if the costs were reduced and there was still competition, both locally & overseas that prices could come down?
Do you think that the problem could be partly a mindset of consumers and that small changes could collectively make a significant difference?

I do.

I want references. "I think" is not a base for a compelling argument, it's a trolling ramble.

[Madness]

I want references. "I think" is not a base for a compelling argument, it's a trolling ramble.

I'm not going to bother with you any more, you're just a little ant.

Easily squashed, but hardly fair sport.

[speeding_ant]

Easily squashed, but hardly fair sport.

Just like your credibility.