Driver anger, L plate or not

[bosslady]

Answer = Cause they're dicks.

End of story.

[mhm]

Sorry but I really DO have an issue with this 'move to the left' thing..... Advanced/safe riding ' OWN YOUR BIT OF ROAD' a bike needs as much room as a car, you should be positioned approximately 2/3 or. level with a car driver for road position. moving to the left simply encourages people to use 'bully' tactics. Especially if a fuckwit (WRXGTSEVO) driver is following and observes it. A car does NOT 'move to the left' of its lane when being overtaken.
Secondly, by moving to the left you have automatically removed any manoeuvring space you had, in the event of...... thats my view, and I'll stick to it

very well worded and agree completely

[McFatty1000]

Don't worry, it happens everywhere, to all sorts and for no reason.
The big one I find though is that they don't register you there as much, and as they can see more road as you don't take up as much space, they seem to think they should be able to go faster/the gap is bigger than it actually is

Assertive riding does help, trying to stay moving past them (Within reason) also helps them notice you

[Road kill]

As already stated it's just how people drive.

I drive a truck around Auckland most days and like tailgaters then because they give me something to laugh about on slow days.

Favourite trick is to slow down fast "not jump on the brakes" just slow down pretty quick.

Then watch the reactions,,,fucking price less

In my car I flip the mirror up so I can't see directly behind me,,,,,,,,an what I don't see don't bother me.

On my bike I move at a slightly faster average speed than the rest of the traffic,,so I never give anybody the chance to tailgate.
That comes with it's own very real risks but I'd rather be in some control of them than leave myself open to the driving skills of some mouth breather who as far as I'm concerned are 99% of all other road users.

The bikers I see tailgating cars on the southern motorway every day are some of the more interesting but only in how close the dumb fucks get to the cars their following,,,often 3-4 meters away where as the average car would be around 6 meters back.

Probably KB regulars.

[Berries]

Sorry but I really DO have an issue with this 'move to the left' thing..... Advanced/safe riding ' OWN YOUR BIT OF ROAD' a bike needs as much room as a car, you should be positioned approximately 2/3 or. level with a car driver for road position. moving to the left simply encourages people to use 'bully' tactics. Especially if a fuckwit (WRXGTSEVO) driver is following and observes it. A car does NOT 'move to the left' of its lane when being overtaken.

I would have thought it was common courtesy, something sadly lacking on NZ roads. If I am driving the work truck or the wife's car and I see someone catching up to me I will move to the left, as much to allow them to see past me so they can decide when to overtake. It doesn't matter what speed I am doing, if they are going faster than me and I can see it is safe for them to overtake I will move over within the lane. Doesn't happen to me on the bike because, well, I've never had that problem. I would get pissed at someone who is holding me up sticking doggedly to their own perceived personal space. It might be safer for them to move over and let the vehicle get past and get away rather than hold them up and suffer a really dodgy overtake borne out of frustration.




Or go faster. That works.

[Dogboy900]

I recently had a 250 loaner from the bike shop and I have to say I noticed that cars were more likely to tailgate, and force themselves into my lane than when I am on my Fireblade.
Of course once I got a little used to it, I had so much fun thrashing that little 250 I seriously started looking for one for a while. It turned me into a maniac around town! Dangerous those little bikes!

[FJRider]

Really don't have a big problem with that down here ...

Country people like space between each other. Townies like to get a bit closer.

City folk like to get REALLY close ...

[reggie1198]

Definitely not me. I try to take off as quickly as I can to not hold up traffic at all. That's why it surprised me when I take off with my usual promptness only to see a car ride on my ass while all the rest of them are still back at the lights.

You can't be leaving the lights that quick if the cars can keep up with you.

My solution was to take clutch hand and place behind back, form wanker sign and proceed to stroke hand up and down slowly, this usually pisses him off so he comes along side you. Problem solved, you are no longer being tailgated.

"Warning, this advise may result in road rage, and even death, not to be used on car loads of patched up blokes with hash smoke billowing from the windows, suitable only for non threatening looking white guys in suits and old ladies only"

[FJRider]

Answer = Cause they're dicks.

End of story.

Or they're married to a dick. (it's contagious)

[Subike]

Tail Gaters?? what are them things???
If the fuckers cant keep up, I dont care,
Hell, my 250 is just a putter putter, but over the 100 foot dash, I tend to win the race to the next gap in the traffic on four lane roads.
I have always rode i an aggressive style, moving at about 5kph faster than the flow seems to keep me always ahead of any problems.
even do it passing police cars, yet to be ticketed.. but will happen in due time.
Not on my XS11, fuck ya hoo if some turkey in a cage want to lights race...tee you latter cager....
Bugger time to lock the XS11 away in the garage again...

But seriously, On my Black XS1100, I never have problems with tail gaters, lanes changers or SMIDSY fellas,
On my Red/ White XS1100 I have to be aware of them as much as on my 250.....now why would that be..... oh wise bikers of KB?

[FJRider]

On my Red/ White XS1100 I have to be aware of them as much as on my 250.....now why would that be..... oh wise bikers of KB?

Unpaid ACC levies .. ???

[GrayWolf]

I would have thought it was common courtesy, something sadly lacking on NZ roads. If I am driving the work truck or the wife's car and I see someone catching up to me I will move to the left, as much to allow them to see past me so they can decide when to overtake. It doesn't matter what speed I am doing, if they are going faster than me and I can see it is safe for them to overtake I will move over within the lane. Doesn't happen to me on the bike because, well, I've never had that problem. I would get pissed at someone who is holding me up sticking doggedly to their own perceived personal space. It might be safer for them to move over and let the vehicle get past and get away rather than hold them up and suffer a really dodgy overtake borne out of frustration.




Or go faster. That works.

Ok, fair response,
so lets consider this... move left.. in a truck, unless there is a chevroned area, slow lane etc, at best its a 'few' feet.
move left on a bike? even to 1/3 of the lane remaining on your left. So NOT to be in the kerb and riding on the drain lids etc. you now have enough room for said impatient fucknut to pull level with you, straddling the centre line, instead of being all the way over and in the opposite lane...
Now just how many of our outstanding NZ drivers can you think of would not attempt a dodgy overtake anyway, just BECAUSE they are halfway in their own lane, misjudge it, or simply not give a wanks thought to the poor bugger on the 'wee 250' and simply crowd the motorcycle into the kerb. They cant 'force' a truck further left, but they sure as hades can see the bike can be pushed a few more feet,,,,
Sorry but 'owning' your bit of road is not done in an 'aggressive' manner, as pointed out, it allows manoeuvring room in the case of.......