Originally Posted by Katman
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Que?
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Forum whore
'Cos of course, no-one else broke the law that day.
Forum whore
Fuck you are the densest safety homo I have encountered.
With this precedent the next person they do this to might be under the speed limit and end up as a quadriplegic and the pig will get fined how much then. $100? No doubt he will be on paid leave throughout and won't be disadvanted at all. Unlike the victims family who have lost everything and more.
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Forum whore
.....might think twice about heading over a blind crest at a stupid speed.
mad thou rider
pretty shallow argument from someone who always bangs on about safety etc. The point here is that doing a turn at that point of the road was a dangerous decision, and a dangerous place to make the manouvre. The person who was killed couldve been anyone, in any vehicle, travelling at any speed.
all other factors being the same, had the u turn not been performed, a life would not have been lost, that we can be certain of, but had he been at the speed limit, he would most likley have still been killed, or at the least, quite badly hurt.
And the 'speeding' comment isn't really that well supported, the 'estimates' from the people who were supposedly professionals in the field of such things were somewhere between 114, and 158km or so? thats a BIG gap, he might have been at 105, who knows, with an estimate THAT vague, it's a bit hard to state unequivocally that he was definitely speeding, or at a dangerous speed
Fair weather rider
And police volunteers deal with crime/traffic accidents/life saving situations, aside from two lives i saved, one at a small passenger plane crash at Denham airfield who had a deep neck wound and another who suffered deep stab wounds to his chest and his mouth cut open back to his ear while on duty, dealing with other crime including busting someone with 500g of crack cocaine (which is quite a large amount to find) and coming across numerous other incidents like Friday night town centre assaults/fights/domestic incidents/traffic accidents/arrested numerous drunk drivers while patrolling myself on my own amongst numerous other crimes including arresting a wanted sex offender while off duty. Dozens of crimes that would have gone undetected or " they got away with" had i not been a special.
I would have said at the start my motivation to join was due to being a kiwi and its the kiwi thing to do as we like to help out in our community but in reality to start with it was the numerous people stating they do not see enough police on the streets in the uk and i was one of them happy to moan and complain but i decided well i am going to go out there to add that extra officer to the community rather than sit back complaining like i actually know what it is about.
I was giving up a minimum 10 hours a week despite having a 40 hour a week job to do and a very supportive wife at home i could have spent more time with or even gone out drinking myself instead on a friday/saturday night but i was out on the beat for no pay.
Yes there are the "18 -20 year old specials" who liked to wear the uniform for the 'cool factor' with aspirations of joining the police full time but out of the 10 specials on my team he was the only one, the other 9 on my team were 30 year old+ career professionals and family people like myself with wife/kids/husband and other jobs/careers to go too who had not intention of joining full time, i see the "annoying people" comment to be taint everyone with the same brush due to what i assume was a bad experience you had with a few specials yourself or seeing articles in the newspaper like this one in the OPs post, hell we all know that in every industry or walk of life there are always bad apples - but in reality there are alot of specials out there who did it for the love of making a difference like myself.
I will say what i have said before to people, go volunteer as a special like I did for 8 years and then make judgement… ….people are quick to judge what specials are about and profile them to a certain group and what they do but when challenged to go find out for themselves they never do because its easier to sit back complaining.
But i am not sure why i tried to justify the role or people like me who did it by writing all of the above, you made it clear i am part of the "annoying people and you have no admiration for people like myself" but i know what i did out there made a difference in peoples lives because they mother of the young stab victim who's life i saved i know has admiration for people like me who special-ed, its still clear by the xmas cards i get from her several years later all the way from England still.
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The uk case sucks arse BIGTIME, she should get the same as any other driver.
Sometimes the kiwi courts actually do get it right though...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2301...guilty-verdict
and for those who know the road, it is actually quite difficult to speed by much over the limit, and fkn near impossible to stop in time at most legal speeds if someone does something so incredibly BEYOND stupid as this driver/cop did... car or bike it would have had near the same outcome
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Forum whore
Clearly, I'm somewhat more of a realist than you.
They call me Mr Fahrenheit
So who doesn't think that Lenihan was showing off to his mate with a thrilling display of rapidly entering into hot pursuit? Got your ears on Enos?
I'm damned sure if you or I were driving that car on that day, then the penalties would have been much greater.
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Fair weather rider
"A bit of context.
The biker was on the RHS of the road doing an overtake past a van on the approach to a junction. She couldn't see him, he couldn't see her.
The family have nothing but praise for the investigating offers, who have pressed very hard for the CPS to prosecute. They've refused.
Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...#ixzz2LOWprWmq "
The article is not stating all the information. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to cry bloody murder.
The issues raised are human issues, not just issues within the Police. I personally have a huge respect for the folks who do what they do for us.
Forum whore
That's outrageous!!!
How dare you suggest there might be another side to it?
Forum whore
So do I, as long as they do it legally.
Fair weather rider
Just need an emoticon for sarcasm eh?
Forum whore
A rather misleading comment considering that nobody here cried bloody murder in respect to the incident to which you are referring in the first incident.
Idiots like the safety homo are too easily confused and are likely to take it out of context and see it as a vindication of our local filth getting a paltry hand slap when breaking the law by comitting considerably more reckless acts (U turns at road crests) than using a cell phone when driving.
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Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
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