New Ngauranga camera

[caspernz]

Hmmm, what evidence is there that this is a camera which means there will be a different process of some sort?

It seems to me that if all NZ Police/NZTA wanted to do was compare the Plate number (which current cameras obviously capture - I know this from experience) against the Vehicle Licencing (aka Registration) data at that date, they could do it with the current hardware.

I would have thought that most likely reason for he change of camera was just for a better quality image.

Ready to be corrected, but seems like a big call to make without any evidence.

Give it a week? If there's no wah-wah thread about "I got pinged for no rego" on KB by then...it's not an ANPR camera

[FJRider]

Give it a week? If there's no wah-wah thread about "I got pinged for no rego" on KB by then...it's not an ANPR camera

Would anybody really admit it ... after the warning it could be an ANPR camera ... ??

[R650R]

Give it a week? If there's no wah-wah thread about "I got pinged for no rego" on KB by then...it's not an ANPR camera

Good point Casper.

I watched a documentary about these cams when in UK where they have had them for awhile. Apparently one in ten vehicles is worth stopping by the law for rego/wof/crime related issues. One of the cops reckoned he could even park an ANPR wagon outside the copshop and do an honest days work.
If it was an ANPR cam I'm sure the police would relish doing a big media release about it. They already had the mobile ANPR vans in our local newspaper ages ago.
The biggest worry for biker is still the *555er saddo stuck in the que with his wife and 2.5 children in the people carrier while we lanesplit past him...

I'd love to cross examine one of those witnesses. "Sir just to be fair we thought we'd follow you for awhile and check on your driving to see if your qualified to judge someone else, this is what we recorded..."

[Scuba_Steve]

The biggest worry for biker is still the *555er saddo stuck in the que with his wife and 2.5 children in the people carrier while we lanesplit past him...

I'd love to cross examine one of those witnesses. "Sir just to be fair we thought we'd follow you for awhile and check on your driving to see if your qualified to judge someone else, this is what we recorded..."

Have you been hit with a *555??? I've always wondered if they actually went past the submission stage & if so just what the recipient received

[R650R]

Have you been hit with a *555??? I've always wondered if they actually went past the submission stage & if so just what the recipient received

Got stopped once in the truck by a cop so he could tell me how good my driving was and didn't know what the caller was talking about. One of the other guys got pinged for failing to give way at a roundabout by a sacred off duty firefighter and his wife, he got pulled and a $125 fine. If they have two or more witnesses I think your buggered unless you want to play out the court game... I know in the bay here they treat the calls with priority even though some of them are pathetic minor complaints. Funny though of all the times I phoned in epic blind corner overtakers while in the btrain I never once saw any of them stopped by police and often there were cops in the area, but life is never fair...

[Shadows]

Have you been hit with a *555??? I've always wondered if they actually went past the submission stage & if so just what the recipient received

If you ring *555 they act on it. It's the same as dialling 111 without having to ask to be put through to the cops.

[Scuba_Steve]

I usually do it online, I've called once after seeing some wanker almost hit a bike when forcing into the other lane because he didn't want to merge

On the phone I was told they'll get the cops in the area on the lookout. If not found he'll just get a letter saying someone noticed him being a wanker, don't do it next time & if I want to formally complain goto a cop shop.
When doing online however it just says they'll send a message reminding them of their wrong doings but if you want to lodge a formal complaint then ya gotta go through da cop shop i.e the letter sent out is just a "you've done something wrong, do it right next time" rather than a fine. Which I'm happy with, most people are ignorant of the law & just need to know.
I was just wondering if anyone had received these "bad driving" letters & what they entailed etc

[oneofsix]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/8391...arter-on-roads

Our speedy news media must be having a slow day so finely decided to print about the camera. As suspected, it now appears that when they are slow adjust the limit up again they will be able to ping you with the new camera being that "If the speed limit in the gorge is changed temporarily, the new camera can be adjusted remotely", so those days where the signs still say 60 and yet there is no traffic Drive to the signs, NOT the conditions. Don't keep your eyes on the road, instead watch to overhead gantries an your speedo. "If people are travelling under the speed limit, there's absolutely nothing to worry about."

this is playing with the truth a bit; "Police do not record the amount of revenue collected by each speed camera, but Mr Griffiths said there was "strong evidence" that cameras encouraged drivers to slow down, and reduced crashes."
They know which cameras "issue" the most tickets and yet don't know the revenue figures - yeah right. And, as well discussed before there is in fact strong evidence that camera increase crashes and no evidence, just assumption, that they reduce them.

[roogazza]

I haven't read back far so don't know if this has been reported?
The camera in the Gorge was reported on the news just minutes ago that it has gone digital. That is all that was said.
So is it NPR type or just speeding as it was ?

[oneofsix]

I haven't read back far so don't know if this has been reported?
The camera in the Gorge was reported on the news just minutes ago that it has gone digital. That is all that was said.
So is it NPR type or just speeding as it was ?

They neither confirm nor deny. It's digital and can be downloaded remotely to a central site. Draw your own conclusions but mine say that it isn't a large leap from the digital photo going to a central site to the central site doing auto Reg checking. You wont see the flash so you wont know until you get the letter.

[superjackal]

Does it read absolutely everything or just when the speed sensor triggers? In other words if you're doing 60 in a 80 does it read your plate anyway?

[Coldrider]

The camera in the gorge that can photograph a speedster amoungst six lanes of traffic simultaneously is shooting blanks.

[pete376403]

Community spirit...

[veldthui]

If you ring *555 they act on it. It's the same as dialling 111 without having to ask to be put through to the cops.

Rubbish. I called *555 following a truck one day that was all over the road. I followed him for 50kms and there was even a cop going the other way that past us but no sign. I went in to the cop shop in town after he stopped and told him where to find the guy. They actually went round and turned out he was not drunk but tired and was falling asleep at the wheel. Decided he better pull over in the end. He nearly took out 5 cars and two bridges but no sign of any cop except the one that went the other way and carried on even though I flash my lights and waved at him.
Turns out they were all too busy to care.

[R650R]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9357...up-46-per-cent

"Police have provided data on fastest recorded speeds at camera sites in the past, but refused to specify September's fastest gorge drivers - declining the data "in the interest of public safety".

"Police do not want to encourage copycat offending by presenting what may be seen as a target to some drivers," the Official Information Act response read.

Mr Stables said: "Police will not be releasing these figures due to concerns that it glamorises unsafe driver behaviour." In recent years, cars have been clocked travelling as fast as 168kmh down the gorge."

Translation: There's a boat load of people here speeding all the time and not crashing, releasing the numbers would contradict our antispeed message.
One thing I've noticed is that whenever there is these newspaper articles in the oh wow category of we caught someone fast its never more than the 170ish mark, except for that duke rider in Napier snapped at eskdale.
I agree speed is dangerous and we need enforcement to some level but wonder what they police think they will achieve not revealing info here... Wonder what the average patrol car speed past there is responding to the suburbs/city?