Bike Costs

[Big Dog]

In rebut to your reasons: None of those really press me to ride on the road.

I never meant to pose an argument for or against, just illustrate my point, which is riding is a passion a hobby or a lifestyle. Outside of commuting there is no logical reason for riding in the relative discomfort of a motorcycle. It is something we do because we can / we have to / want to. not because it's logical. I bought my bike because my life had become less interesting without one, a peice of me was missing. Now its back, and I feel complete.
$6,500 Bike.
$ 450 Servicing
$ 65 Speedo Cable
$ 140 Rego (first year was included in the purchase price)
$ 0 Tyres (about 25% of my tyre tread gone)
$1,000 Insurance
Seems a pretty small price to pay for 18 months (16,000 kms) of sanity .

If you need a reason to ride or convincing from us, you shouldn't own state of the art engineering in the first place.

[Big Dog]

Oh and retail is still the same as what I paid for mine.

[wkid_one]

Get real Wkid! There IS No Moon!!
It's just a optical illusion, Set up by the Americans,,, so they could then fake a landing on it!!
The cost to the earth of having a real moon would be far to great!

Ummm - maybe you should watch your consumption of illicit chemicals - or at least moderate them....

Actually Wkid, you did make mention of a car, comparing it by saying air/con, ability to carry more than a matchbox and a block of butter, and lack of attire.

You seem to have missed the bit off the end of that paragraph where I said

...but I will still miss riding

For gods sake all - all I was doing was posting MY costs of riding a bike. No more no less. I wasn't trying to convince people it is expensive, I wasn't trying to convince people cars are better. Hell I wasn't even trying to convince anyone the moons exists.

I know bikes are fun, I know they have their own joys over and above cars.

Seeing as I have passed on road riding - I calculated how much money I was going to save.....this isn't the reason why I gave it up - it is just a factual itemisation of MY costs.

It actually sounds in all honesty more like you are trying to convince yourselves the cost is worth it.

And with that I leave this thread as it has turned in to something I didn't intend. Rather than a statement - it has turned in to an argument.

[Big Dog]

And with that I leave this thread as it has turned in to something I didn't intend. Rather than a statement - it has turned in to an argument.

With all due respect perhaps we just took it for the sort of conflict provoking post you seem most interested in since your high side?

If you have been offended I apologise, i thought I was just playing along, and providing a little off the cuff humour.

[wkid_one]

With all due respect perhaps we just took it for the sort of conflict provoking post you seem most interested in since your high side?

If you have been offended I apologise, i thought I was just playing along, and providing a little off the cuff humour.

If you had noticed - recently I had had more people agreeing with my posts than not - something that quite frankly scared the bejesus out of me.

My post was merely a point of interest - no more no less.

ON the cost thing however - I am surprised at how cheap trailies are - admittedly with a higher degree of R&M than a road bike - but shit....for the amount of bike you are getting they seem disproportionately cheaper than road bikes - go figure

[Big Dog]

ON the cost thing however - I am surprised at how cheap trailies are - admittedly with a higher degree of R&M than a road bike - but shit....for the amount of bike you are getting they seem disproportionately cheaper than road bikes - go figure

Perhaps the extra cost on the R1 is just the bragging rights

[wkid_one]

Perhaps the extra cost on the R1 is just the bragging rights

Possibly - or just pure profit??

[onearmedbandit]

Fair enough Wkid, but still I felt that some balance was required. And as far as your statement about myself needing convincing re the costs, you don't know me or how much determination and effort I've had to put back into getting back on a serious roadbike. I'm probably the last one on this board who cares how little or much it costs to ride. For one my income allows this, and I work hard for it. Secondly, I don't look at m/c's in terms of dollars and cents, rather as an extension of who I am as a person. Sure I shop around looking for the best deal, but m/cing is a part of me, it helps makes up who I am.

Anyway, I'm not here to argue. Intially all I did was offer a counter opinion, to which you jumped up and down.

BTW, where the fuck did this bit of verbal trash come from???

Re Depreciation - work this out per trip on your bike?? As I only ride the bike in the weekends - depreciation to percentage of use is huge. Plus I have a company car - so depn isn't an issue. If you think bikes don't depreciate one arm you are living in a world of your own. With all the new model bikes coming out annually - your bike is depreciating quicker than you think.

Fuck - you make one simple statement and all the lunatics think you are criticising - is it a full moon or something

Wow, Wkid's giving me a lesson in depreciation, I'm in vehicle sales so I might just know a thing or two about it myself. My bike is depreciating quicker than I think? Um, sorry mind reader, but no its not. I know how quick it will depreciate, but couldn't give a flying fuck. Bikes to me are above putting on a balance sheet, because you can't put the experiences, fun, adventures, people you meet, stories you hear and tell on the other side of the ledger to offset the dep.

Now go and chill. All I did was counter your comment, which YOU couldn't handle, and then you started an attack on me. Thats all I've got to say right now, this isn't worth anymore of my time.

[wkid_one]

Anyway, I'm not here to argue. Intially all I did was offer a counter opinion, to which you jumped up and down.

Ahhh - you post sounds like the final battle in the 8 Mile DVD. I wasn't stating an opinion - just a fact as to MY cost of riding and owning a bike.....everyone has assumed the negative. Refer below. This is exactly my point.

This is actually quite an amusing response, everyone has jumped in to this assuming I am BAGGING riding and/or owning a bike.......far from it. It is you, one arm, who has taken the negative of the discussion - I have merely placed facts on the table.

Shit - I would be first to attest to the benefits of riding a bike. I just can't justify the costs of having a bike like the R1 sitting in my garage for 6 days out of 7. TO ME - the benefits don't outweigh the costs.

I made no comment as to OTHERS costs - I don't know them.........did you actually READ my first post properly??

As for 'Sure I shop around looking for the best deal, but m/cing is a part of me, it helps makes up who I am' - that is a serious issue if something innate makes up your identity.

[Yamahamaman]

Shit - I would be first to attest to the benefits of riding a bike. I just can't justify the costs of having a bike like the R1 sitting in my garage for 6 days out of 7. TO ME - the benefits don't outweigh the costs.

Beats me why you bought a road bike or 2 in the first place.

I own a bike because it is the best solution to Auckland traffic. The car I also own is currently up for sale, as I spend more time charging the battery than actually driving the thing. (Something like 100km between WOF's).

[wkid_one]

Beats me why you bought a road bike or 2 in the first place.

I own a bike because it is the best solution to Auckland traffic. The car I also own is currently up for sale, as I spend more time charging the battery than actually driving the thing. (Something like 100km between WOF's).

Company car solves many of my problems. Plus Auckland had much wickeder rides than Wellington (sorry old argument but true IMO) Have no traffic problems as I live in town......

As have I said previously - I can give up ROAD riding somewhat easily because I did what I wanted to do.......this harks back to an OLD post. This doesn't mean I am gonna walk away from ALL forms of motorcycling - far from it.

[Lou Girardin]

Same here, yamahaman. Couldn't justify an unused 4 wheel toy either.
I think part of the reason wkid cops so much flak, is the 180 degree turnaround since he went splat. The cost of ownership didn't used to worry him.
Lou

[wkid_one]

Same here, yamahaman. Couldn't justify an unused 4 wheel toy either.
I think part of the reason wkid cops so much flak, is the 180 degree turnaround since he went splat. The cost of ownership didn't used to worry him.
Lou

That's where your wrong......cost was always as issue

[Redstar]

The inference that I am a lunatic based on my interpretation of your post and I being only one of a group of lunatics who collectively misunderstood the underlying message hidden deep within the body of your thread might take exception to your inference? Depreciation has a time factor ratio as well as a usage one in fact one could argue its lower if you only ride at weekends?
its also has a relationship to make model and condition would you concede that?. My Bike has lost $500 a year but this will bottom out soon and appreciation might be on the cards? that is rare with cars but common with bikes how many times do you spot ads saying stored 10 years there must a rationale for this apparent lunacy
I reckon the lunatics in the hospital are all convinced the Doctor is a nutter
Actually I dont mind being called a Lunatic as its a reasonable assumption that i'm not the full quid

[SPman]

Whew!..........