MV Augusta Brutale 800 vs. Speed Triple R vs. what else?

[SPP]

Comparison is with the Speed (1050) isn't it? Not the Street (675)

Analogous with a 750 sports in that it shares everything about the 600 but with more donk? (or in this case the 675 Brutale)

I know nothing about either one so my only contribution was "looks cool, what happens if it breaks"

He's still looking so...dunno.

[pritch]

The new Kawasaki 800 seems better accepted by magazines than the 750 of previous years.

Then there is the BMW 800GT which must be due to arrive imminently?

If the Speed Triple and MV Brutale 800 are under consideration then parhaps the Aprilia Tuono could also be worth a look.

[deeknow]

He's looking for a naked middle weight and something with character. The MV is top of his list.
Are they any good? Backup service ok here? other options? (...Monster)

Hey all. Been away from KB for awhile, but a long time member - yeah hold the jokes about talk-back radio

This post pricked up my ears, and hopefully I can give your mate some feedback if it's not too late. I bought an MV 800 about 4 weeks ago, having ridden it against a Speed Triple (and oddly enough a new '12 Blade) on the same day. I was coming off a 675 Daytona (which I loved) having owned a Blade previously and was lusting after something with a tad more Torque than the 675, and a little more accessibility/flexibility to use as a weekend thrill seeker as well as a part time commuter.

Borrowed a '13 Speed Triple from Bayride in Tauranga and was really impressed. Had tested an '10 model a couple of years ago and it seemed very familiar, oodles of torque, surprisingly light handling, silky smooth gearbox and engine, lovely exhaust note and I do like the looks of the new model. The Speed Triple is one of those universal road bikes that covers all bases, you could own one of them and be happy in all circumstances I reckon, and the ride is so comfy you could sit on the thing all day.

Unfortunately for the Speed Triple, and for Chris at Bayride (great guy, knows his products), I had just gotten off an hour long test ride on the demo 800 Brutale from GP Red Baron in Mt Maunganui and to be honest, I just couldn't stop thinking about the bloody thing

The MV is a fabulous machine. It looked fast sitting on the shop floor, it sounds awesome at start-up and idle, it feels naughty as hell when you sit on it, the engine screams like a banshee and pulls very well for an 800, gearbox and clutch are lovely and smooth for a new machine, and the geometry and gearing are as hooligan as hell.

Now, I'm no stunt rider, and the shop guys did warn me that it was in the Sport mode ECU setting on the way out the driveway, but I was thinking it cant really be that angry can it? So I took it easy out to the Welcome Bay loop road, onto some open road, wound on the throttle, and the bloody thing power stood straight away in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, without any encouragement really.

It was all I could do to not head straight back to the shop to start talking trade deals.

I've got no illusions about it being infallible, it's Italian after all right? For starters the bloody thing is supplied with a trickle charge battery charger coz the stock battery is so piss weak it loses a charge if left without a run for more than a couple of weeks. Also, the fuel injection system does some pretty weird shit in the Rain and non-Sport modes, and I had heard reports of the 675 Brutale doing the same thing (the 675 is 95% the same bike really). The guys at GP Red Baron have been very helpful, the first service has been done now (no probs) and they sourced and applied an updated ECU mapping from MV which has helped in a couple of areas, esp the low throttle/engine rev performance.

To be honest this thing is so much damned fun to ride I decided I'd just have to put up with the odd "unplanned" cost along the way by saving the loose change from the pub on Friday nights.

If you can't tell already, I am delighted with it.

pic of my machine:

Getting back to your mate though, I'm wondering if the Speed Triple (esp the R version if he's got lots of moolah) might be the better machine for him if he's been off a bike for awhile. The MV is a blast, but it does require some concentration while you're riding it. I do have a commuter bike as well so the MV wont be my only machine. As I mentioned earlier I think a Speed Triple would be a great all rounder.

Feel free to IM me if you think he'd want to know more about the Brutale though. Or if anyone wants to post back here, go-for-gold

[BigAl]

Nice bike, will be nice to know what they tour like and for everday riding.

You'll need to come on a few rides with the laxed out riders so we can get a look at it.

[SPP]

Cheers.
I've txt him a link to your post, maybe he'll get excited.

[carbonhed]

What kind of tank range are you getting on it? Been looking at the Tuono V4 and that's a major issue for me.

[deeknow]

You'll need to come on a few rides with the laxed out riders so we can get a look at it.

Hey Al, yeah mate have just been catching up on the Waikato threads, will follow that LOR thread and try and make it along to a group ride soon

What kind of tank range are you getting on it? Been looking at the Tuono V4 and that's a major issue for me.

It's a 16.5L tank and really its been fine so far, a few good longish range rides already and no surprises so far fuel wise, just stopping to top up at the usual places you would on any ride.
Not meaning to be a prick or anything, but are you serious about not buying the Tuono just because of fuel range???? Do you live in the outback?

[carbonhed]

It's a 16.5L tank and really its been fine so far, a few good longish range rides already and no surprises so far fuel wise, just stopping to top up at the usual places you would on any ride.
Not meaning to be a prick or anything, but are you serious about not buying the Tuono just because of fuel range???? Do you live in the outback?

No I don't live in the outback but I like riding there. If you start caning the Tuono it's staggeringly thirsty... less than 160k's per tank. Would that go around East cape? Who wants to be the prick that's constantly needing to refuel... maybe I need more tolerant mates.

[deeknow]

If you start caning the Tuono it's staggeringly thirsty... less than 160k's per tank

Wowza, that is a bit lean.

Who wants to be the prick that's constantly needing to refuel... maybe I need more tolerant mates

ps - I notice your last post was #666 for you

[carbonhed]

ps - I notice your last post was #666 for you

Cool. Maybe I'll leave it there... doh!

[Kermit250]

Hey all. Been away from KB for awhile, but a long time member - yeah hold the jokes about talk-back radio

This post pricked up my ears, and hopefully I can give your mate some feedback if it's not too late. I bought an MV 800 about 4 weeks ago, having ridden it against a Speed Triple (and oddly enough a new '12 Blade) on the same day. I was coming off a 675 Daytona (which I loved) having owned a Blade previously and was lusting after something with a tad more Torque than the 675, and a little more accessibility/flexibility to use as a weekend thrill seeker as well as a part time commuter.

Borrowed a '13 Speed Triple from Bayride in Tauranga and was really impressed. Had tested an '10 model a couple of years ago and it seemed very familiar, oodles of torque, surprisingly light handling, silky smooth gearbox and engine, lovely exhaust note and I do like the looks of the new model. The Speed Triple is one of those universal road bikes that covers all bases, you could own one of them and be happy in all circumstances I reckon, and the ride is so comfy you could sit on the thing all day.

Unfortunately for the Speed Triple, and for Chris at Bayride (great guy, knows his products), I had just gotten off an hour long test ride on the demo 800 Brutale from GP Red Baron in Mt Maunganui and to be honest, I just couldn't stop thinking about the bloody thing

The MV is a fabulous machine. It looked fast sitting on the shop floor, it sounds awesome at start-up and idle, it feels naughty as hell when you sit on it, the engine screams like a banshee and pulls very well for an 800, gearbox and clutch are lovely and smooth for a new machine, and the geometry and gearing are as hooligan as hell.

Now, I'm no stunt rider, and the shop guys did warn me that it was in the Sport mode ECU setting on the way out the driveway, but I was thinking it cant really be that angry can it? So I took it easy out to the Welcome Bay loop road, onto some open road, wound on the throttle, and the bloody thing power stood straight away in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, without any encouragement really.

It was all I could do to not head straight back to the shop to start talking trade deals.

I've got no illusions about it being infallible, it's Italian after all right? For starters the bloody thing is supplied with a trickle charge battery charger coz the stock battery is so piss weak it loses a charge if left without a run for more than a couple of weeks. Also, the fuel injection system does some pretty weird shit in the Rain and non-Sport modes, and I had heard reports of the 675 Brutale doing the same thing (the 675 is 95% the same bike really). The guys at GP Red Baron have been very helpful, the first service has been done now (no probs) and they sourced and applied an updated ECU mapping from MV which has helped in a couple of areas, esp the low throttle/engine rev performance.

To be honest this thing is so much damned fun to ride I decided I'd just have to put up with the odd "unplanned" cost along the way by saving the loose change from the pub on Friday nights.

If you can't tell already, I am delighted with it.

pic of my machine:

Getting back to your mate though, I'm wondering if the Speed Triple (esp the R version if he's got lots of moolah) might be the better machine for him if he's been off a bike for awhile. The MV is a blast, but it does require some concentration while you're riding it. I do have a commuter bike as well so the MV wont be my only machine. As I mentioned earlier I think a Speed Triple would be a great all rounder.

Feel free to IM me if you think he'd want to know more about the Brutale though. Or if anyone wants to post back here, go-for-gold

Welcome to the MV fold. They are usually bikes that not many people get until they own one.

Very rewarding, and the theme song is just beautiful.

Surprisingly for an exotic, they are very easy to work on and actually quite reliable (as long as they are ridden often and not left as garage queens), plus the valve adjustment is just standard shim over bucket with cam chains

[nodrog:Me]

Welcome to the MV fold. They are usually bikes that not many people get until they own one.

Very rewarding, and the theme song is just beautiful.

Surprisingly for an exotic, they are very easy to work on and actually quite reliable (as long as they are ridden often and not left as garage queens), plus the valve adjustment is just standard shim over bucket with cam chains

If they are that easy to work on i hope you have tightened your numplate bracket? Must be a big job, its been hanging half off for 18 months.

[Kermit250]

If they are that easy to work on i hope you have tightened your numplate bracket? Must be a big job, its been hanging half off for 18 months.

Lol fixed that ages ago. Been a while since we've ridden together huh? That was more a case of laziness than anything

[nodrog:Me]

Lol fixed that ages ago. Been a while since we've ridden together huh? That was more a case of laziness than anything

yeah, I got sick of trying to keep up.

[Kermit250]

yeah, I got sick of trying to keep up.

Lol maybe because you forgot to check your mirrors and realise everyone was behind you rather than in front

Selling the sidecar?? Getting a new one or giving it up??