Maximum lean angle?

[bogan]

Have you re-evaluated gyro's recently bogan?

I've thought about hacking something similar together but maybe mounting the LED's in the helmet on the bottom of the visor area.

The rate gyros I tried ages ago were shit, but I probably bought the cheapest. They will always have drift, but would be worth looking into...

Yeh I've started that sort of thing too, but its hard to get the cases right and have it adjust for lighting when its right up in your grill, so I've haven't got back to it.

[varminter]

I have a piece of string with a weight on the end in front of my visor. When the string passes in front of one of my eye's I know to straighten up, not foolproof I know, as I often seem to be climbing out of ditches. Cheap though.

[ducatilover]

I would have thought that would be quite dangerous to keep your eye on while cornering hence why I suggested something audible.

I think I would prefer to rely on my abilities to judge the situatuion and ride to the conditions. The brain is a fantastic thing on the rare occasion it's used.


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[Dave-]

I would have thought that would be quite dangerous to keep your eye on while cornering hence why I suggested something audible.

Not just that, but the time taken to see something, process its meaning, then act is much longer than the time taken to hear something and act.

Navman did a lot of research into this, and if I remember that psyc paper I took to pick up chicks a few years back, it's an area quite widely researched in psych too.

I believe they did tests into the time it took to press a button after a light came on, or a sound played etc or something.

So I would tend to agree, though I think an array of LED's across the bottom of the visor might be out of direct view, and more on a subliminal level, of course I'd have a sound too when you reached the critical zone.

You could even instil some logic into it by allowing it to learn what your average maximum lean angle is

[bogan]

I would have thought that would be quite dangerous to keep your eye on while cornering hence why I suggested something audible.

You missed the point, most of the danger is from coming into a corner too hot, fuck all you can do about that half way round the corner if something beeps at you. You can however look at it after the corner, and realise you were at say 70% of available traction, and learn not to push any harder than that.

[sinfull]

beeeeeeeeeeeeeep........

[manxkiwi]

Just how is any gyro or gizmo going to be able to see the camber at your point in the road? Or the loose gravel, white line ad infinitum. There is no magic lean angle, as said before, that's what your brain with experience sorts out.

[Dave-]

Just how is any gyro or gizmo going to be able to see the camber at your point in the road? Or the loose gravel, white line ad infinitum. There is no magic lean angle, as said before, that's what your brain with experience sorts out.

Same way your speedo knows that it's raining (it doesn't)

But to answer your question:
Camber can be found with a 2nd gyro or an accelerometer.
white line with an ifra-red diode (see line follower - or not as the case may be)
loose gravel could be tricky, but I'm sure I could think up something.

what you're asking is outside of the spec of what the lean-O-rama tells you, certain assumptions must be made.

[bogan]

Camber can be found with a 2nd gyro or an accelerometer.

white line with an ifra-red diode (see line follower - or not as the case may be)

loose gravel could be tricky, but I'm sure I could think up something.

What is this, fucking amateur hour? Just slap some cameras and a PC all up in that bitch.

[Banditbandit]

Same way your speedo knows that it's raining (it doesn't)

But to answer your question:
Camber can be found with a 2nd gyro or an accelerometer.
white line with an ifra-red diode (see line follower - or not as the case may be)
loose gravel could be tricky, but I'm sure I could think up something.

what you're asking is outside of the spec of what the lean-O-rama tells you, certain assumptions must be made.

Fuck me ... I get all that with my eyes and my inner ear ... which comes already installed free ... why add expensive bullshit ...

Just ride the fucking bike ...

[ducatilover]

Just ride the fucking bike ...

FFS stop making sense again


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[Dave-]

Fuck me ... I get all that with my eyes and my inner ear ... which comes already installed free ... why add expensive bullshit ...

Just ride the fucking bike ...

This is very true, though there's often a human attached to said eyes and ears and humans have been known to fuck up....I guarantee if motorcycles ever come equipped with this device, it won't completely stop bikes from leaning over too far.

[ducatilover]

This is very true, though there's often a human attached to said eyes and ears and humans have been known to fuck up....I guarantee if motorcycles ever come equipped with this device, it won't completely stop bikes from leaning over too far.

Obviously not, seeing as one dedicates to a corner before max lean is achieved it is an entirely pointless device. Like tits without nipples!


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[Dave-]

Obviously not, seeing as one dedicates to a corner before max lean is achieved it is an entirely pointless device. Like tits without nipples!


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Oh I agree, It'd be nice if we could measure the radius of a corner before we got to it, then we could draw some conclusions from a lean-O-meter, yaw rate vs roll rate etc.

But we can't oh well.

I can think of a track application where you ride around a race track and it logs angles etc, then you come in, analyse the data and the computer says "right you pussy, based on all the info you've given me, you can go faster around all these corners. If you begin rolling earlier, or roll faster here you can go 10% faster at the apex!....etc etc" and you could say "well computer, I can't cause that would mean....etc etc...previous corner....etc"

so also useless.

Sometimes guys like bogan and I like to hack these wee projects together for fun, and wank factor, cause lets face it, driving a bunch of LED's based on a scale from an analogue input isn't nearly as cool mounted to a desk, or a house, or a lamp post amirite?

know what would be cool? hooking up the lean-O-meter to a bunch of RBG LED strips hidden under the fairings etc, so when you rode around at night the ambient glow under the bike changed colour as you leaned in to corners. MAXIMUM WANK.

[ducatilover]

For wank factor, it's bloody cool. That I can understand.

I do think that it could have a possibly use on the track, but I also think there are too many variables to manage it.
Mine would keep calling me a pussy, that's probably why I don't like it


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