Petrol question

**placidfemme** · 17th August 2005, 09:40

Well seeing as gas is going up and up and up and our pay checks arn't (well not mine anyway)... I was ust wondering...

I have 1 (or 2? can't remember) of those petrol containers (the type you borrow from the gas station when you run out of gas and have to walk back to your vehicle) and they only hold about 3l or 5l of gas...

Would it be worth it to full them both up and keep them at home for when the prices go up?

Is there any special way to store petrol?

Just a thought...

**James Deuce** · 17th August 2005, 09:43

No point unless you're stockpiling hundres of litres. Petrol does go "off".

For what it's worth we've been paying far less per litre than just about every country in the world. Norway has their own massive oil supply and they pay more than we do. Even if it hits $2.00 per litre we'll be paying less than most European countries, with their much bigger economies.

**bugjuice** · 17th August 2005, 09:45

for what you're saving in those wee things, isn't really worth the trouble. It's dangerous to keep them hanging around for too long, and after a while of being static, it can go off an be useless. As much as it sucks the big one, you'll just have to bite the bullet when you need to fill up. Besides, those tanks aren't really going to last very long, or save you very much..

When the fuel crisis was on in the UK years and years ago (huh, when I was there), and tractors had pulled across the gates of the fuel companies, people were going as far as filling up their wheelie bins. One reported casse was a taxi driver had filled up his 4 bins, and every other container he could find. The fuel ate thru the plastic and flooded his house. Guess how many people weren't impressed..

NC · 17th August 2005, 09:47

Originally Posted by Jim2

No point unless you're stockpiling hundres of litres. Petrol does go "off".

For what it's worth we've been paying far less per litre than just about every country in the world. Norway has their own massive oil supply and they pay more than we do. Even if it hits $2.00 per litre we'll be paying less than most European countries, with their much bigger economies.

Well the country is doing so well anyway. Isn't time for a stock market crash?

**placidfemme** · 17th August 2005, 09:48

Oh ok... well thats good to know (so I won't be wasting my money).

Thanks for the answers...

Yah petrol in Zimbabwe was bad too... you'd que for over 12+ hours for rationed petrol... you could get more gas on the black market... but for 5 times the price...

**Motu** · 17th August 2005, 09:50

When I was a kid,a guy down the road used to syphon fuel out of his truck and use it in his car,and he had quite a bit stockpiled.A small house fire was spectacular,and set the firemen asking questions....

**James Deuce** · 17th August 2005, 09:52

Originally Posted by NC

Well the country is doing so well anyway. Isn't time for a stock market crash?

Great minds.

NC · 17th August 2005, 09:57

Originally Posted by Motu

When I was a kid,a guy down the road used to syphon fuel out of his truck and use it in his car,and he had quite a bit stockpiled.A small house fire was spectacular,and set the firemen asking questions....

There was a dude that used to syphon gas out of my dad's truck in the 80's...
For some reason it only happened a couple of times, then never again.
Maybe I should ask a question...

**Motu** · 17th August 2005, 10:24

In the good old Post Office days,before rogernomics - every truck that entered the workshops left with an empty tank....

**vifferman** · 17th August 2005, 10:39

Originally Posted by Motu

In the good old Post Office days,before rogernomics - every truck that entered the workshops left with an empty tank....

The good old Post Office workshops?
And the good ole MOW gargres?

We had both in Rotorua. The PO one did everything: made furniture, made electrical stuff, maintained PO vehicles. It was HUGE.

The MOW garge 'maintained' the large fleet of Gubmint vehicles.
When I worked for DSIR, we had the "James Bond Special Edition" Corolla wagon. It had had the MOW Special Edition engine rebuild, so every time it was filled with petrol, you had to put 4 litres of water in the radiator, and 2.5 litres of oil in the engine. When you accelerated away from the 'baddies', everything disappeared in a ginormous cloud of smoke'n'steam. The thing went like stink though, probably because of the water injection adding boost...

We also had several LandRovers maintained by the workshops. One of them had the MacGyver Edition door retainer: a line of linked rubber bands (Gubmint Issue, of course) from the top of the left door to the mirror, to stop the top half of the door falling off.

**Mr Skid** · 17th August 2005, 10:44

Anyone know what the deal is with ethanol blended petrol in NZ? I'm aware it's common place in the US.

Any ideas if you could do a homebrew with Ethanol? I'm assuming it costs less than the price of petrol?

**Wolf** · 17th August 2005, 10:53

Originally Posted by Mr Skid

Anyone know what the deal is with ethanol blended petrol in NZ? I'm aware it's common place in the US.

Any ideas if you could do a homebrew with Ethanol? I'm assuming it costs less than the price of petrol?

Providing you have a large free supply of suitable raw material viz. something to ferment then distill - like if you own an orchard or have a lawnmowing run and take away the grass for "disposal"

**zadok** · 17th August 2005, 11:01

Just read this article about the Motunui synthetic fuel plant. It says that N.Z is almost 50% self sufficient in petrolium products! I mentioned the plant in a previous thread ages ago. I am amazed that there haven't been more plants converting natural gas in to fuel around the world.
http://www.ipenz.org.nz/heritage/ite....cfm?itemid=68

**Motu** · 17th August 2005, 11:15

Originally Posted by zadok

Just read this article about the Motunui synthetic fuel plant. It says that N.Z is almost 50% self sufficient in petrolium products! I mentioned the plant in a previous thread ages ago. I am amazed that there haven't been more plants converting natural gas in to fuel around the world.
http://www.ipenz.org.nz/heritage/ite....cfm?itemid=68

One of the last flings from ''think big'' Mulddon.A good idea,but using obselete technology at the time.Totaly scuppered of any use by selling our natural gas to the Japs.....and now we have stuff all left.Balanced the books for an election - so it was worth it in the short run...

**Mr Skid** · 17th August 2005, 11:17

Originally Posted by Wolf

Providing you have a large free supply of suitable raw material viz. something to ferment then distill - like if you own an orchard or have a lawnmowing run and take away the grass for "disposal"

Ok, failing that, anyone know where I can buy a mil-spec KLR650 diesel?
I want to run a bike on chip grease.