Finally! AA backs review to raise speed limit!

[rastuscat]

The limit is already 110 on the open road.

It's so because the Popos say it's okay to go 10 k over any limit. Except long weekends, outside schools etc, when it's 4 k's over the limit.

Just watch. If the limit goes up, the tolerance will go down. Basically it needs to, otherwise it'll be 120 on those roads (110 plus 10 k tolerance).

It's all just part of the reshuffle. Whatever the limit gets set at and the tolerance gets applied to we'll bitch about it. Coz that's what KB is for.

[Scuba_Steve]

if they do raise the limit I hope someone lets the Grimm Reaper know, I'd hate to see people dying because they forgot to inform him of the new death tolerance.

[BoristheBiter]

I was just down in Waiouru last week ( in the Ute, bikes on back) so 1000km trip.

Going down I averaged 75kph because it took 2 hrs to get through Auckland. the rest of the way was pretty good.

Coming back i averaged 93kph, again the traffic was pretty good.

The only reason it was was that i would overtake as it seems to be a thing that drivers just don't do anymore.
The the amount of drivers that slow right down for a corner then speed up is a bigger problem than the speed limit.

Where i agree with raising the limit all it will do is mean drivers will sit in the outside lane doing 105 and other such frustrating things because they think they have every right to.

[Ocean1]

Just watch. If the limit goes up, the tolerance will go down. Basically it needs to, otherwise it'll be 120 on those roads (110 plus 10 k tolerance).

It's all just part of the reshuffle. Whatever the limit gets set at and the tolerance gets applied to we'll bitch about it. Coz that's what KB is for.

Look around, you don't need KB to hear bitching about unrealistic speed limits. Your objective is to enforce the law. Everyone else’s is to minimise interference with their preferred behaviour. And never the twain shall meet.

It's obvious without a stuff poll that 90% of road users want higher limits. Thinking about votes... why don't we vote on the speed we reckon’s appropriate for each bit of road. Or we could save the massive cost of a small deciduous forest’s worth of speed signs and just travel at the speed we feel’s safe. Nearly identical to the way we travel now in fact.

[Jantar]

The limit is already 110 on the open road.

It's so because the Popos say it's okay to go 10 k over any limit. Except long weekends, outside schools etc, when it's 4 k's over the limit.

Just watch. If the limit goes up, the tolerance will go down. Basically it needs to, otherwise it'll be 120 on those roads (110 plus 10 k tolerance).

It's all just part of the reshuffle. Whatever the limit gets set at and the tolerance gets applied to we'll bitch about it. Coz that's what KB is for.

I have been making a lot of trips between Alexandra and Hamilton recently, and as a result I can confirm that the average speed of most vehicles on the road is 85 kmh. I believe this is due to a combination of speedo error and fear of speeding tickets. A driver conciously drives at what he believs is 90 - 95 kmh, just below the spped limit, but due to speedo error that actually works out at 85 - 90 kmh. I try to ride at close to 100 kmh on my GPS and end up passing most other vehicles.

If the speed limit was raised to 115 kmh then the true speeds may increase to around 100, so raising it to 110 will still mean that most vehicles would be going at less than 100.

[Akzle]

A driver conciously drives at what he believs is 90 - 95 kmh, just below the spped limit, but due to speedo error that actually works out at 85 - 90 kmh. I try to ride at close to 100 kmh on my GPS and end up passing most other vehicles.

no, that's because they're f*ing retards.

if i'm driving and i don't want to discuss new zealand legislation with an ignorant SOB, then i sit at an indicated 109.5km/h
of course, if i'm ever questioned, i say i was doing 99 and a half.

if i have a GPS on deck, it usually ends up being about 108, because that's where the car sits on the revs nicely.

//welcome back rasty. did you miss us?

[FJRider]

If the speed limit was raised to 115 kmh then the true speeds may increase to around 100, so raising it to 110 will still mean that most vehicles would be going at less than 100.

The big sticking point in the legislators mind in considering any raising of the limit is ... do they want the 40 tonne (plus) trucks going any faster than they already do.

[Scuba_Steve]

The big sticking point in the legislators mind in considering any raising of the limit is ... do they want the 40 tonne (plus) trucks going any faster than they already do.

bringing them in line with general traffic would go far in helping the flow of traffic, if you ever watched that trucking program a while back where the trucks had cameras fitted you see the things people do to avoid being stuck behind a limited truck.

In saying that tho things have changed alot in more recent times, it used to be you see a line of traffic with a truck upfront that was because the truck is speed limited more so than the rest; now you see a line of traffic with truck up front it's because he's stuck behind some useless wanker that can't even manage truck speed.
Even worse come a passing lane the 25 vehicles behind are now "happy" to stay at an excessively slow speed partly through fear of the PIG waiting on the passing lane. Admittedly it's the 1st 5 or so vehicles that are the real problem, the rest behind just acknowledge attempting an overtake ain't gonna do them much good; except me who quite often now has to push 200 to pass this line of impeding traffic in the limited space given to do so

[BMWST?]

its all about the flow of traffic.The low tolerance weekends work quite well because everyone tends to be travelling at much the same speed,and cos its a holiday weekend there arent many trucks.I tend to travel at about 105 110 indicated cos i know the speedos on the car and the bike read slow.The low tolerance weekends are good because most people wont overtake even on passing lanes which leaves them free for those who know how fast they are actually going(or are willing to go).
110 wont work on our roads,cos there will be an bigger spread of speeds between over cautious drivers, underpowed towing vehicles,slow trucks,fast trucks,normal speeds and faster speeds(speeders).It will all turn to shit at the known blackspots

[FJRider]

In saying that tho things have changed alot in more recent times, it used to be you see a line of traffic with a truck upfront that was because the truck is speed limited more so than the rest; now you see a line of traffic with truck up front it's because he's stuck behind some useless wanker that can't even manage truck speed.

And after the limit is raised ... all those that expect ... that because the limit is (whatever) ... that is the speed they will travel ... come hell or bloody high water. And see anybody that prevents them from doing so ... as an intentional and personal affront ... to their personal freedoms.

Oh wait ... many do (and think) that now ...

[Swoop]

This is coming from the organisation that, in its latest magazine, recommends to "check your car's oil".
They go on to mention that the oil dipstick "can be found near the engine".

Not ON the engine, or IN the engine... NEAR the engine!

AA: Advanced Alzheimer's?

[Berries]

And after the limit is raised ... all those that expect ... that because the limit is (whatever) ... that is the speed they will travel ... come hell or bloody high water. And see anybody that prevents them from doing so ... as an intentional and personal affront ... to their personal freedoms.

Oh wait ... many do (and think) that now ...

Don't take this the wrong way, but do you talk the same way that you type? It makes ... it ... hard to ... read.

[Gremlin]

Would that mean trucks would be raised to the 90kmph that hardly any of them do anyway....?

Trucks can already do 90kph. For the most part, it seems cars slow the trucks up, then speed up in passing lanes, man, I don't think I could be a truck without wanting to kill a few drivers...

On the other hand, I was chased towards Opotiki today by a rally driver stuck in a people mover, or at least its the only explanation I have for large amounts of body roll, using both sides of the road (and hard shoulders) and catching up while I'm doing 120 indicated

Found a nice place to take a picture and leave him to it...

[Scuba_Steve]

On the other hand, I was chased towards Opotiki today by a rally driver stuck in a people mover, or at least its the only explanation I have for large amounts of body roll, using both sides of the road (and hard shoulders) and catching up while I'm doing 120 indicated

People mover... na the body roll & wide turns was result of the samoans inside being thrown round @ 120km/h, physics & all that

[Milts]

The limit is already 110 on the open road.

It's so because the Popos say it's okay to go 10 k over any limit. Except long weekends, outside schools etc, when it's 4 k's over the limit.

Just watch. If the limit goes up, the tolerance will go down. Basically it needs to, otherwise it'll be 120 on those roads (110 plus 10 k tolerance).

It's all just part of the reshuffle. Whatever the limit gets set at and the tolerance gets applied to we'll bitch about it. Coz that's what KB is for.

Even if this is the case (tolerances go down as limit goes up) that doesn't mean no change.

115 km/h will become 5ks over the limit, not 15, and thus will attract a lower penalty.

The speed at which a mandatory walk home is enforced becomes 150, not 140.

Etc.