I degregistered a car with out the plates in my youth, but the cops had taken them so they were probably handed in. I am pretty sure you can get away with deregistering it with out the plates or the license lable(apparently they want that too) because on the form it askes for an explanation as to why you are not handing them in, IE "left on the vehicle, unknown where abouts", although I have not tried that. Ill have to look into that declaration, I do recall something along those lines once before now that you mention it. Its worth popping down and talking to them at the counter anyway, they'll know what to do. Maybe.
there's this term registration, and this other one continuous vehicle licensing (cvl).
legally, as a registered owner, you are required to ensure: your vehicle is continuously licenced; your vehicle is exempt from continuous licensing, or; your vehicle's continuous licensing is suspended (on hold).
if you don't talk to ltnz for 12 months, they will assume that you meant to pay CVL, but forgot, at that point in time, the vehicle will be de-registered, and you will be sent a bill for the CVL for the last 12 months.
if your licensing is on hold for 3 months, and you don't talk to them, you'll get the bill in 15 months.
once your vehicle is de-registered, you must pay for low volume certification ("re-vinning") and then registration and then licensing fees.
doesn't work if registration has lapsed.
suspending CVL can be done online, providing your legal person doesn't owe anything, in which case it must be paid first.
yes, you provide a driving license number, preferably the one that identifies the person registered in respect of the motor vehicle.
Disagree. I know of mulitple instances in which the registered owner has simply not paid for 12 months, rego expired/vehicle deregistered, nothing happened. Still nothing. More nothing.
There's definitely a bit of a grey area here. My understanding is that you'll be fine without the plates provided you can manage explanation to at least equal and preferable exceed "ahh, umm, fuck, err, ahh, shit, I, um, errr, ahh, lost em ey?, bro?" as your response to the location of the plates.
Definitely.
I don't think so.
It's a nice idea but I'm pretty sure it's just trailers that can get away with unpaid rego when it's not on hold.
To the OP; I recommend ringing NZTA on their 0800 number and explaining the situation. They can be surprisingly efficient when you're taking to an actual person and they probably deal with cases like yours all too often. If you have any evidence that you've sold it (and in this day and age TradeMe can count for more than legislation might suggest) then you should be alright.
I have 2 baycorps that say otherwise; When we went for a mortgage & it was possibly an issue, we we're told "yea NZTA hand them out like candy, as long as you've got a good reason most banks will ignore NZTA baycorps (exception being Westpac apparently)" needless to say we got the mortgage & NZTA can still go fuck themselves![]()
So there are plenty of people with baycorps from NZTA so much so they've sorta become a joke when issued from NZTA, they've just taken it too far.
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Yeah NZTA like to play it dirty. Charge you for a service you don't want. And they eventually de-register the car so you never got the service and they have applied a penalty. And Baycorp you as well. Even if you pay the vehicle is still de-registered.
But no one cares about NZTA bad debts, as you say they are seldom an issue with getting credit, and other than baycorp they just go away.
But the fines etc dont.
The OP should attempt to deregister the vehicle. If they wont let him without him handing in plates, report the plates lost. Get a new set. Then deregister it.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
I had a similar problem when I sold a car but I had filled in a MR13A form with the person I sold the car to and sent it to NZTA. The NZTA agreed that I had done all I could and chased the guy I sold it too never heard any more
i put my xl on hold 2 months after the rego was due,
cost me nothing
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Forgot to put a bike on retention one year. NZTA wouldn't put it in on hold until I paid (something like $50). Transferred the bike to another identity ($9), then put it on hold.
Cue letters from Baycorp etc. Eventually I instructed then to remove it from my credit file as it was in dispute and there had never been any indication it would end up there, they removed it.
At a basic level it would appear there is no legal mechanism for the NZTA to get the money ie you can't be taken through a criminal court. Possibly there is a civil debt, but debt collecting companies have no powers to do anything and will never take anyone to court.
I have never, and will never, send any money to debt collectors in any case.
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