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    Quote Originally Posted by hayd3n View Post
    go online and put it on hold just did mine and it cost me nothing
    Ohhhh did they need any specific ID?

    I know a bitch's rego I'd like to put on hold just to get her a fine!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Ohhhh did they need any specific ID?

    I know a bitch's rego I'd like to put on hold just to get her a fine!!!!!
    Just change the ownership ... fill out the form ... $9 I think. In about a month ... report it stolen.

    Change it to somebody else you dont like. (2 birds with one form)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Considering the time that has passed since it was sold I think that's fair enough although if it was a (much) more recent sale & I was the buyer I'd be pretty pissed if the car all of a sudden needed to be re-vinned. You might need to hand in the plates to be able to de-register it in which case I'm pretty sure you can still sign a declaration to have it taken out of your name.
    I degregistered a car with out the plates in my youth, but the cops had taken them so they were probably handed in. I am pretty sure you can get away with deregistering it with out the plates or the license lable(apparently they want that too) because on the form it askes for an explanation as to why you are not handing them in, IE "left on the vehicle, unknown where abouts", although I have not tried that. Ill have to look into that declaration, I do recall something along those lines once before now that you mention it. Its worth popping down and talking to them at the counter anyway, they'll know what to do. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    I'll bet you $1 you can't do that with months of unpaid back-rego outstanding.
    I've done it twice a couple of months out of rego and didn't have to backpay anything, I was expecting to as previously I'd had it happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I've done it twice a couple of months out of rego and didn't have to backpay anything, I was expecting to as previously I'd had it happen
    There's probably a grace period, after which has expired they can legally arse-fuck you till the cows come home. How far out was yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    There's probably a grace period, after which has expired they can legally arse-fuck you till the cows come home. How far out was yours?
    I think its three months that is the cutoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Don't vehicles just get deregistered if they aren't paid for a while? Or do you have to back-pay the rego on them?
    there's this term registration, and this other one continuous vehicle licensing (cvl).
    legally, as a registered owner, you are required to ensure: your vehicle is continuously licenced; your vehicle is exempt from continuous licensing, or; your vehicle's continuous licensing is suspended (on hold).
    if you don't talk to ltnz for 12 months, they will assume that you meant to pay CVL, but forgot, at that point in time, the vehicle will be de-registered, and you will be sent a bill for the CVL for the last 12 months.
    if your licensing is on hold for 3 months, and you don't talk to them, you'll get the bill in 15 months.
    once your vehicle is de-registered, you must pay for low volume certification ("re-vinning") and then registration and then licensing fees.

    Quote Originally Posted by hayd3n View Post
    go online and put it on hold just did mine and it cost me nothing
    doesn't work if registration has lapsed.

    suspending CVL can be done online, providing your legal person doesn't owe anything, in which case it must be paid first.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Ohhhh did they need any specific ID?

    I know a bitch's rego I'd like to put on hold just to get her a fine!!!!!
    yes, you provide a driving license number, preferably the one that identifies the person registered in respect of the motor vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    rego on-hold stay on the system as long as you keep putting them on-hold, the only vehicles that drop off "silently" are vehicles that do not require constant rego i.e. classics, trailers etc
    Every other vehicle will drop off with a demand followed by baycorp from NZTA
    Disagree. I know of mulitple instances in which the registered owner has simply not paid for 12 months, rego expired/vehicle deregistered, nothing happened. Still nothing. More nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by clonak View Post
    I degregistered a car with out the plates in my youth, but the cops had taken them so they were probably handed in. I am pretty sure you can get away with deregistering it with out the plates or the license lable(apparently they want that too) because on the form it askes for an explanation as to why you are not handing them in..... Its worth popping down and talking to them at the counter anyway, they'll know what to do. Maybe.
    There's definitely a bit of a grey area here. My understanding is that you'll be fine without the plates provided you can manage explanation to at least equal and preferable exceed "ahh, umm, fuck, err, ahh, shit, I, um, errr, ahh, lost em ey?, bro?" as your response to the location of the plates.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Stink, is it rego on-hold vehicles that drop off the system without needing back paying then?
    Definitely.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I think its three months that is the cutoff.
    I don't think so.

    It's a nice idea but I'm pretty sure it's just trailers that can get away with unpaid rego when it's not on hold.

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    To the OP; I recommend ringing NZTA on their 0800 number and explaining the situation. They can be surprisingly efficient when you're taking to an actual person and they probably deal with cases like yours all too often. If you have any evidence that you've sold it (and in this day and age TradeMe can count for more than legislation might suggest) then you should be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Disagree. I know of mulitple instances in which the registered owner has simply not paid for 12 months, rego expired/vehicle deregistered, nothing happened. Still nothing. More nothing.
    I have 2 baycorps that say otherwise; When we went for a mortgage & it was possibly an issue, we we're told "yea NZTA hand them out like candy, as long as you've got a good reason most banks will ignore NZTA baycorps (exception being Westpac apparently)" needless to say we got the mortgage & NZTA can still go fuck themselves
    So there are plenty of people with baycorps from NZTA so much so they've sorta become a joke when issued from NZTA, they've just taken it too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    I have 2 baycorps that say otherwise; When we went for a mortgage & it was possibly an issue, we we're told "yea NZTA hand them out like candy, as long as you've got a good reason most banks will ignore NZTA baycorps (exception being Westpac apparently)" needless to say we got the mortgage & NZTA can still go fuck themselves
    So there are plenty of people with baycorps from NZTA so much so they've sorta become a joke when issued from NZTA, they've just taken it too far.
    Yeah NZTA like to play it dirty. Charge you for a service you don't want. And they eventually de-register the car so you never got the service and they have applied a penalty. And Baycorp you as well. Even if you pay the vehicle is still de-registered.

    But no one cares about NZTA bad debts, as you say they are seldom an issue with getting credit, and other than baycorp they just go away.

    But the fines etc dont.

    The OP should attempt to deregister the vehicle. If they wont let him without him handing in plates, report the plates lost. Get a new set. Then deregister it.
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    I had a similar problem when I sold a car but I had filled in a MR13A form with the person I sold the car to and sent it to NZTA. The NZTA agreed that I had done all I could and chased the guy I sold it too never heard any more

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    i put my xl on hold 2 months after the rego was due,
    cost me nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Ohhhh did they need any specific ID?

    I know a bitch's rego I'd like to put on hold just to get her a fine!!!!!
    just used my drivers licence

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    Forgot to put a bike on retention one year. NZTA wouldn't put it in on hold until I paid (something like $50). Transferred the bike to another identity ($9), then put it on hold.

    Cue letters from Baycorp etc. Eventually I instructed then to remove it from my credit file as it was in dispute and there had never been any indication it would end up there, they removed it.

    At a basic level it would appear there is no legal mechanism for the NZTA to get the money ie you can't be taken through a criminal court. Possibly there is a civil debt, but debt collecting companies have no powers to do anything and will never take anyone to court.

    I have never, and will never, send any money to debt collectors in any case.

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