Rego problem

[Expert]

Ok, this is about a car, but it applies to bikes aswell.

i sold a car through trademe in July of last year to a motor dealer, noreservecars. He came to where i work to pick it up and paid up but didn't bring any paperwork or anything, just paid cash and left saying he would email me his details so i could notify disposal of it. Nothing arrived so i just filled out the form saying it was no longer mine and put down his email in the address box for the new owner. being a dealer i assumed he would sort his end out and it would all be good..

i've just moved backinto the house i was in when i sold the car and i've got a bill for non payment of rego. emailing/trying to contact have not worked, a phonecall to nz transport says i'm liable for the rego even though i havent owned the car for nearly a year.

What recourse do i have on this? who should be responsible for registering the car?

Rather than opinion, has anyone got any legal knowhow on this sort of thing?

[Akzle]

i've got a bill for non payment of rego. emailing/trying to contact have not worked, a phonecall to nz transport says i'm liable for the rego even though i havent owned the car for nearly a year.

What recourse do i have on this? who should be responsible for registering the car?

Rather than opinion, has anyone got any legal knowhow on this sort of thing?

yes. legally, you are responsible until the new owner completes change of ownership form MR10111010100011.3

see, the government like to keep their database up to date, and, someone has to pay.
that someone is the registered owner. if they (buyer) haven't registered their person as a registered owner, and you did, previously. guess whut? your person is the registered owner.

recourse: no. pay up. it's for the good of all motorists and the safety of the NZ public.

[Madness]

Our green friend is correct. You're fucked.

[bogan]

Don't vehicles just get deregistered if they aren't paid for a while? Or do you have to back-pay the rego on them?

[Madness]

Don't vehicles just get deregistered if they aren't paid for a while? Or do you have to back-pay the rego on them?

I think they drop off after a year or two but the registered owner is liable for any unpaid rego up to that point where it is de-reg'd.

The OP should either chase the buyer to follow through or go & make a declaration to register it to "persons unknown" if they can't track the buyer. Sounds dodgy as feck anyway, how many kosher dealers buy used cars off TardMe?

[bogan]

Stink, is it rego on-hold vehicles that drop off the system without needing back paying then?

[carburator]

Trader Number M180428

Expired 17 Jan 2012

Trading Name No Reserve Cars
Other Trading Name(s)
Address for Service

9 Kempthorne Cres, Mission Bay, Auckland, NZ
Individual's Name Basturkmen Solen Antony

Also Known As
Residential Address

9 Kempthorne Cres, Mission Bay, Auckland, NZ
Date Of Birth 12 September 1985

Occupation Car Salesman

[Scuba_Steve]

Stink, is it rego on-hold vehicles that drop off the system without needing back paying then?

rego on-hold stay on the system as long as you keep putting them on-hold, the only vehicles that drop off "silently" are vehicles that do not require constant rego i.e. classics, trailers etc
Every other vehicle will drop off with a demand followed by baycorp from NZTA

[clonak]

Had a kind of similar experience. Sold a car on trademe to a wrecker, on the phone they said keep the plates and deregister it. When they came to pick it up, the guy said he might keep it, so dont deregister it just yet, he will call me. After a week, I hadnt heard anything, so took the plates in. 2 weeks later I recieve $400 in parking fines (car had no wof/reg) and a counsel towage fee, apparently he had parked it on the road, with no plates(must have run the vin number) and the same day it got towed. Luckly for me they had given me a recipt, plus I had the link to the auction as proof it had sold. So I sent a email off with all the information, and they accepted it. Unfortunately for you, it seems you do not have such information, and unless you can track him down, your gonna be suckered with the bill. Check here and see if you are still the registered owner. If you are, head down to your local AA or VTNZ and deregister it, but note you are still liable as the last registered owner, should the car still be in use.

At the VERY least when selling a vehicle, make them fill out their half of the desposing of vehicle form, because if they havent changed ownership in a certain period, they are liable for prosecution I beleive. But never let a vehicle leave your possesion with out proof of change of ownership. There is always a AA or such around the corner, or you can do it online these days. Never take thier word for it, especially used car salesmen.

[Madness]

head down to your local AA or VTNZ and deregister it.

Considering the time that has passed since it was sold I think that's fair enough although if it was a (much) more recent sale & I was the buyer I'd be pretty pissed if the car all of a sudden needed to be re-vinned. You might need to hand in the plates to be able to de-register it in which case I'm pretty sure you can still sign a declaration to have it taken out of your name.

[AllanB]

Apparently you own the car still.

Call the police and file a stolen car report.

[Madness]

Apparently you own the car still.

Call the police and file a stolen car report.

Vehicle registration in NZ is all about liability & has nothing to do with actual ownership. To report the car stolen would be commiting a crime in itself.

[AllanB]

Apparently there was no paperwork. I propose the payment received was for 12 months rental. The vehicle has not been returned, thus considered stolen!!!! Bawahahhaahhahahahahah

Car Dealers - can you trust them?

Actually I had to chase up a bike dealer 5 years back when I traded a bike in and they took two months to change ownership.....

[hayd3n]

go online and put it on hold just did mine and it cost me nothing

[Madness]

go online and put it on hold just did mine and it cost me nothing

I'll bet you $1 you can't do that with months of unpaid back-rego outstanding.