We're all in the wrong business!

**imdying** · 9th April 2013, 14:06

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-579505225.htm

$3.50 plug
$0.17 resistor

Get one now, only $75

**bogan** · 9th April 2013, 14:20

Or two for 100

Isn't that like half the price of a wideband sensor?

**Maha** · 9th April 2013, 14:25

At least it free delivery and pick ups are allowed.....can't be Plenter.com

**sidecar bob** · 9th April 2013, 14:37

I would never disconnect an oxy sensor. There are far better ways of "fixing" said problem.
The oxy sensor creates a fluctuating voltage, not a resistance anyway. The man is an idiot.
Just unplugging it would have the same effect for $0

**imdying** · 9th April 2013, 15:06

Originally Posted by bogan

Or two for 100

Isn't that like half the price of a wideband sensor?

Actually, it's more expensive than a wideband sensor!

/edit: http://oxygensensor.net/bosch_o2/17014.php

**imdying** · 9th April 2013, 15:08

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I would never disconnect an oxy sensor. There are far better ways of "fixing" said problem.
The oxy sensor creates a fluctuating voltage, not a resistance anyway. The man is an idiot.
Just unplugging it would have the same effect for $0

The resistor is to keep the ECU happy. Tt puts a load on the sensor heater circuit; stops the ECU from going hey hey no sensor, FI light time.

**sidecar bob** · 9th April 2013, 15:12

Originally Posted by imdying

The resistor is to keep the ECU happy. Tt puts a load on the sensor heater circuit; stops the ECU from going hey hey no sensor, FI light time.

So the signal wire is just just blowing in the breeze. Quite retarded really.

**imdying** · 9th April 2013, 15:14

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

So the signal wire is just just blowing in the breeze. Quite retarded really.

No, it is still inside a sealed connector.

**sidecar bob** · 9th April 2013, 15:15

Originally Posted by imdying

No, it is still inside a sealed connector.

Yes, but it would be more use up a gay mans bum than in the connector not hooked up to a sensor.

**imdying** · 9th April 2013, 15:21

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Yes, but it would be more use up a gay mans bum than in the connector not hooked up to a sensor.

I guess I'm not as qualified as you to make the comparison, but I've no reason not to believe you!

**pete-blen** · 9th April 2013, 15:25

These DO work ===> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-XT660...ht_3149wt_1170

I have 2 of kev's XT660 fueling mods on my bike.. both do what he clams they do...
O2 controller stoped the surging by 75%.... & his fueling mod gives the abillity to
adjust the air/fuel ratio at the twist of a nob...

**GrayWolf** · 10th April 2013, 09:53

The BIG difference is the O2 sensor circuit in the ECU.. the Mt-01 has a similar design to the XT a 'CLOSED LOOP circuit... if you disconnect or try to 'fool' the ECU it defaults,, and screws up the fuelling of the bike,,,,, The Power CommanderO2 optimiser is well documented in the MT owners forum,, you have to program it, so it in effect converts the signal from the sensor and turns it into false information that it sends to the O2 circuit in the ECU... (in effect tells it the bike is running 'lean' and to richen the fuel mixture)'... Seems that Kevin has developed a similar unit!
The problem with the XT/MT ECU is they are a 'smart circuit' and adapt..... so a resistor or disconnection will within a couple of minutes produce an error code! They monitor the O2, air temp (O2 density) throttle setting, and EFI settings which is used to set the AF ratio... so trying to 'fool it' with a resisitor it soon works out that the O2 sensor isnt working correctly. If you richen the mixture by fooling the temp sensor on an MT, the O2 circuit will soon adapt and lean out the mixture from it's O2 sensor (below 2000rpm).. which is speeds up to 80kph in top gear.

Many other bikes have 'OPEN LOOP' circuits and can be fooled with a resistor etc, as they dont 'monitor' all the aspects of the A/F sensors the way a closed loop does.

**ducatilover** · 10th April 2013, 10:53

Originally Posted by imdying

Actually, it's more expensive than a wideband sensor!

/edit: http://oxygensensor.net/bosch_o2/17014.php

That's bloody cheap. I might just buy one because it's cheap

I'm not a fan of running no O2 sensor, but in some cases it can be beneficial, it won't work in every situation.
Why everything doesn't run a wideband is beyond me (cost I suppose, so not beyond me) and why many new Japanese cars still run unheated units is stupid.

**The Reibz** · 10th April 2013, 13:41

I hope he also sells muffler bearing oil, headlight fluid and powerband color upgrade kits.

But if anyone is dumb enough to buy one then good on him. Its all about making a buck these days, fuck being honest...