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    Tail lights with built in indicators - WOF legal?

    So I'm considering getting one of these for a CBR900RR I've just bought...

    http://www.raceevolution.co.nz/161/p..._details/11357

    Now the seller states that "Tail lights are for show purposes or off road use only, May not meet warrant of fitness standards ETA around 2 week under normal conditions"

    Does anyone know for sure if they are WoF legal or not? Other sellers are not including that statement (e.g. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-582426323.htm).

    Very keen on buying these but I don't want to waste $100 and fail a WoF.... thoughts?
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    Guess it depends who does yer WOFs. My understanding is not legal.
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    Bugger worrying if they're legal not - important thing is: Are they really REALLY visible when you are indicating your 'change of direction'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Bugger worrying if they're legal not - important thing is: Are they really REALLY visible when you are indicating your 'change of direction'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Bugger worrying if they're legal not - important thing is: Are they really REALLY visible when you are indicating your 'change of direction'?
    I did wonder about that. Should be perfectly visible from behind though, and I don't know many bikes where the rear indicator is visible from the side - mostly you see the front one.
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    are they e marked??

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    email and ask them if they are e-marked. if they arent then they are a fail - IF the inspector notices.

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    I've got non-legal indicators on the front and back of mine. The rear set are from a reputable store in NZ so was annoyed at that but never had any issue with either set passing WOF at VTNZ.

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    In the past I've had indicators on a bike which failed a re-vin. I was told they failed to pass compliance for putting the bike back on the road, but would have passed a standard WoF - so would have been fine for any normal check, just not to re-vin.

    Are e-marks the same? I.e. would fail if you tried to put a bike on the road for the first time without them, but no issue to just get a wof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milts View Post
    So I'm considering getting one of these for a CBR900RR I've just bought...

    http://www.raceevolution.co.nz/161/p..._details/11357

    Now the seller states that "Tail lights are for show purposes or off road use only, May not meet warrant of fitness standards ETA around 2 week under normal conditions"

    Does anyone know for sure if they are WoF legal or not? Other sellers are not including that statement (e.g. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-582426323.htm).

    Very keen on buying these but I don't want to waste $100 and fail a WoF.... thoughts?
    In my experience the wof guys are more interested in whether or not your reflectors are e marked.
    They are never interested in your indicators. I have 2 bikes with home made indicators.
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    I had a mate got pulled up when getting his bike vinned for indicators too close together, however I've never been able to find specs on separation. He just added spacers on the stalks as that was easier than arguing the point. I've got integrated indicators similar to the one posted, but also run an addition set of normal indicators, brake/park light on a removable tail tidy. The wof guys have never had any issue with any of it.

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    email and ask them if they are e-marked. if they arent then they are a fail - IF the inspector notices.
    Wrong. E-marking just means they pass beam pattern tests that meet or exceed NZ standards. Non e-marked units can meet the same standards and thus be perfectly legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Wrong. E-marking just means they pass beam pattern tests that meet or exceed NZ standards. Non e-marked units can meet the same standards and thus be perfectly legal.
    That is my impression.

    I've had a look on the VTNZ motorcycle WoF inspection portal and I see nothing which would exclude them, unless they happen to be not very visible:

    http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.n...ornering-lamps

    http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.n...ndicator-lamps

    So: I think I will go ahead and order them. Will report back on just how nitty the inspectors are

    Next step... anyone have a nice streetfighter headlight suitable for a CBR900RR without plastics, which bloody aren't 460USD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milts View Post
    That is my impression.

    I've had a look on the VTNZ motorcycle WoF inspection portal and I see nothing which would exclude them, unless they happen to be not very visible
    As long as you know the regs (and don't have anything else they shouldn't notice), you can argue the point and probably get them passed if they comply with the regs, which from memory are fairly common sense visibility things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milts View Post
    I did wonder about that. Should be perfectly visible from behind though, and I don't know many bikes where the rear indicator is visible from the side - mostly you see the front one.
    Me'nMrs Scummies Harleys have dorky factory indicators which in the meantime I have left in place mainly because they are very visible, even from quite an angle out to either side.
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