Good cop, finally figures it out then retires

**Usarka** · 15th April 2013, 13:37

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I am interested in your view of what "real crime" might be, Mr Dot com.

Busting coons, probably.

**SMOKEU** · 15th April 2013, 14:03

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I am interested in your view of what "real crime" might be, Mr Dot com.

Unjustified violence, vandalism and dishonesty offences mainly.

**Zedder** · 15th April 2013, 14:07

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

It will help them finance more officers to bust people with a small amount of buds or who are speeding. Fighting real crime is too much hard work and uses up far too many resources that could be better spent gathering revenue.

That $150 million worth actually included people convicted for murder and fraud. That means, the cops were investigating them for real crime prior to their arrest.

**ducatilover** · 15th April 2013, 14:16

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

It will help them finance more officers to bust people with a small amount of buds or who are speeding. Fighting real crime is too much hard work and uses up far too many resources that could be better spent gathering revenue.

So instead of having sections of Police force for busting these two illegal things, they should stop busting these two illegal acts and focus on illegal acts they are already working on?

Are you suggesting there's no enforcement involved with other potentially more serious matters?

I don't get it.

**SMOKEU** · 15th April 2013, 14:23

Originally Posted by ducatilover

So instead of having sections of Police force for busting these two illegal things, they should stop busting these two illegal acts and focus on illegal acts they are already working on?

Are you suggesting there's no enforcement involved with other potentially more serious matters?

I don't get it.

I'm not suggesting that police are not taking serious crimes seriously, but too much time is wasted on petty "crimes", and not enough time on more serious matters. The police only have a certain amount of resources available to them, and those resources should be better managed.

**Brian d marge** · 15th April 2013, 14:24

Originally Posted by willytheekid

"Law enforcement was being run like a business"
and
"traffic taking precedence over everything."

NO SHIT!!!!

I think THIS video kind of sums it up*
....and explains WHY they lowered the IQ standards on the intake testing(No shit!), and WHY they are taking good police MEN off the front line,(scummy) and are forcing them to retake harder! physical testing than the new OFFICERS...the last of the police men are being forced out...can't have good people in these roles

...knuckle dragging corporate revenue collectors need only apply please

ITS THE TIME OF THE POLICE "OFFICER"!...so pay up, and shut up!

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVsCIJCOfw (Why u disable video embedding op??

)

...Im still holding out hope that the remainder of the police men will make a stand and say NO to this new power shift...but I not holding my breath

Japanese police dont do anything , and they are as dumb as fk , nice though!

no kinda mute point here

I mean we get april budget , they stand onthe corner and stop a few cyclists , and in December for the xmas party

But being serious for a moment;

WHAT ACTUALLY do we legally have to do when stopped by the police not giving your name was a new one on me ! ( applies to NZ??)

Stephen

**Zedder** · 15th April 2013, 15:24

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I'm not suggesting that police are not taking serious crimes seriously, but too much time is wasted on petty "crimes", and not enough time on more serious matters. The police only have a certain amount of resources available to them, and those resources should be better managed.

Lol, how do you know what time they spend on petty crimes versus serious matters?

**Bison** · 15th April 2013, 15:31

sorry duplicate post

**Bison** · 15th April 2013, 15:33

First of all he's a Detective....NOT a traffic member, so his view of traffic enforcement has to be viewed as lacking exposure, experience and knowledge. Many more people die in traffic crashes than are ever mordered. Get a murder and the entire detective CSI crew comes in and do the investigation. Do a traffic fatality and you're lucky to have more than 1 primary investigator with occasional help. I know, I've investigated 29 fatal crashes. In 1 year we had 12 motorcycle fatal crashes and about 3 murders.

As far as delusion setting in with senior members goes, that is true. Spend 20 plus years fighting against a system that seems to be only concerned with what is legal and not with "justice' and you finally say enough is enough. The entire legal system seems to be concerned more with the rights of the criminal and not those of the victim, judges seem to make decisions that are not reflective of our world and more on the one in which they live...and years of seeing bad guys walk because of a misplaced semi-colon, can grind you down. I retired after 28 years and I got to the point that I found myself wanting to say that I just didn't care, if nobody else seemed to care.

I still make a difference in my community in another way...I run my own driving/riding school and pass along the knowledge and techniques that my previous career taught me. Just a different way to achieve the same end. This is year 50 for me in the saddle and I have no plans to stop for the forseeable future. You should be so lucky.

**ducatilover** · 15th April 2013, 16:05

Originally Posted by Zedder

Lol, how do you know what time they spend on petty crimes versus serious matters?

I second this question.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 15th April 2013, 16:59

Originally Posted by Bison

First of all he's a Detective....NOT a traffic member, so his view of traffic enforcement has to be viewed as lacking exposure, experience and knowledge. Many more people die in traffic crashes than are ever mordered. Get a murder and the entire detective CSI crew comes in and do the investigation. Do a traffic fatality and you're lucky to have more than 1 primary investigator with occasional help. I know, I've investigated 29 fatal crashes. In 1 year we had 12 motorcycle fatal crashes and about 3 murders.

As far as delusion setting in with senior members goes, that is true. Spend 20 plus years fighting against a system that seems to be only concerned with what is legal and not with "justice' and you finally say enough is enough. The entire legal system seems to be concerned more with the rights of the criminal and not those of the victim, judges seem to make decisions that are not reflective of our world and more on the one in which they live...and years of seeing bad guys walk because of a misplaced semi-colon, can grind you down. I retired after 28 years and I got to the point that I found myself wanting to say that I just didn't care, if nobody else seemed to care.

I still make a difference in my community in another way...I run my own driving/riding school and pass along the knowledge and techniques that my previous career taught me. Just a different way to achieve the same end. This is year 50 for me in the saddle and I have no plans to stop for the forseeable future. You should be so lucky.

thats an interesting perspective, thanks.

My view is that those of us with above-average skills and equipment should not have anything as mandatory as a blanket speed limit imposed on us. We should ride or drive as fast as we like, anywhere we like.

If in the opinion of the police that is too fast in the circumstances, then the only appropriate sanction is through a defended court hearing. And in fact there should only be three motoring offences: Careless driving, reckless driving, dangerous driving.

Oh, and only appropriately qualified citizens (say: over 30, stable employment, not mentally unhinged, property owners, male* should be allowed to vote. And should be allowed to exercise capital punishment if the circumstances dictate)

*that'll get them going....