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    Quote Originally Posted by SP
    Anyone got an L plate they don't want - need one for the Gixxer.
    Want to study the psychology of motorists . . . . . . . .
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    SP, I've got a plate you can have.

    I do the same speed as the surrounding traffic (up to about 110) and none of the cops I've passed/had pass me have ever looked twice. I went for a ride with a guy (he was on a 150 Belladonna) in my lunch on Wednesday and he can only do about 80k's. That was the scariest ride of my life, going over the bridge at 80 and it's an 80 zone! That definately would be the most dangerous driving law in NZ. Anyone who tried to obey it could be forgiven for being too intimidated to keep riding.
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    Good luck to you riding at 70km/h on the open road. No disrespect intended given the circumstances, but it'd be your funeral next. It's far safer going with the flow as those before me have said. Most cops recognise that.
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    THe first time I went on the motorway with my L plate, i did no less than 95-100. Then I took my L plate of, I definately felt like a target, when I had it and that wasn't just because of the cagers either . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    THe first time I went on the motorway with my L plate, i did no less than 95-100. Then I took my L plate of, I definately felt like a target, when I had it and that wasn't just because of the cagers either . . . .
    Ditto. My L plate "fell" off ages ago. The few times I had it on, cars sat so far up my back it wasnt funny - and I was doing 90-100k. Was so dangerous! They see that L and they just wanna get in front of it whether your holding them up of not. Since taking it off I've had no pressure from other drivers.

    Agree that so long as you dont draw attention to yourself and do the traffic speed the cops will let you be. Surely they see your far less of a hazard that way!

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    Hey SP! Bess is the name of the new gixer right? As in "Black Bess"? Dick Turpins steed? "Terror of the Highways"?

    (sorry for the off-topic...)

    I only put my L-plate on for the restricted course that I sat on Wednesday. Even then it did actually come off my bike (so I had to borrow one from the instructor - bulldog clip and epoxy for those wanting secure/temporary ones).

    The only time I"ve travelled at 70 on the open road was on teh course, and on the way back from the course (feels a lot safer sticking to 70 when there's 4 or 6 bikes with L-plates on and we're wearing giant, bright "rider training" vests). The rest of the time, I stay with the traffic.

    I figure if a cop pulls me over for speeding, I'll take it on the chin, having proposed my theory that in order to remain safe, and bearing in mind that safety should be the number one priority for any motorist - let alone motorcyclist, I am required to move with the traffic to minimise the speed differential.

    That is, if I can formulate words at all...I get all tongue-tied in the presence of authority!
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    Quote Originally Posted by madboy
    . It's far safer going with the flow as those before me have said. Most cops recognise that.
    Ditto that, i think if you asked most cops about it they wouldn't pull you for doing 100kph in a 100kph, 70kph in a 100kph is dangeous to you and other road users.

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    This subject has been repeated on so many threads and so i'll say my piece like always...........
    Dont wear your L's its a waste of time and makes you a target(if a cop pulls you up it "fell" off)

    Doing 70k is just as scary as doing 130 in traffic just match the speed of those around you and "she'll be right mate"

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    too bloody dangerous! ripped the missis l plate off and told her to do atleast 80!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurygnomes
    Hey SP! Bess is the name of the new gixer right? As in "Black Bess"? Dick Turpins steed? "Terror of the Highways"?
    You got it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smorgen
    Doing 70k is just as scary as doing 130 in traffic just match the speed of those around you and "she'll be right mate"
    I beg to differ - 130k on a GN would be a lot scarier than 70k... for a start, the wind buffeting from the faster vehicle required to tow you up to that speed would surely scare the pants of a learner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by loosebruce
    Ditto that, i think if you asked most cops about it they wouldn't pull you for doing 100kph in a 100kph, 70kph in a 100kph is dangeous to you and other road users.

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    Who ever came up with that 70k rule should be done for involuntary manslaughter at the very least!
    Punished by being dragged down the motorway at 70 k's an hour!
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    In answer to your title question...

    ...No.

    But, technically you're only meant to be on your L Plate for 6 months & it's supposed to be a "learning" period and you're supposed to use the back roads, not the motorway (as told by the cop who pulled me over & pinged me for speeding) for transporting yourself & bike.

    Of course when I 1st rode I wore my L Plate & went 100kms on the open road & wasn't pulled over ever.
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    Have not read all the posts on this so if someone else has responded iin a like manner........................

    The fact that L plate 'drivers' have no speed restrictions on the open road whilst L plate motorcyclists do leads me to believe that here is a classic case of discrimination.

    It was not very long ago that the court ruled that it was 'discrimitory' for drivers under the age of twentyfive to be pulled over if the car they were driving was displaying the yellow and black 25 age sticker. This was the anti theft sticker that stated no one under the age of twenty five would be driving the vehicle.

    Given the fact that the police do have powers to ticket drivers who they deem are going to slow. Just not too sure of what that speed would be but 70 k's on the open road is not only slow but downright dangerous.

    I am of the opinion that if you were ticketed for exceeding the Learner speed on the open road you could make a strong case for yourself.

    I know very little about the law but one thing I do know is that it goes to extreem lengths not to be seen as discrimitory.


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