ARE L PLATE SPEEDS SAFE ON THE OPEN RD

[myvice]

The fact that L plate 'drivers' have no speed restrictions on the open road whilst L plate motorcyclists do leads me to believe that here is a classic case of discrimination.

It was not very long ago that the court ruled that it was 'discrimitory' for drivers under the age of twentyfive to be pulled over if the car they were driving was displaying the yellow and black 25 age sticker. This was the anti theft sticker that stated no one under the age of twenty five would be driving the vehicle.

Given the fact that the police do have powers to ticket drivers who they deem are going to slow. Just not too sure of what that speed would be but 70 k's on the open road is not only slow but downright dangerous.

I am of the opinion that if you were ticketed for exceeding the Learner speed on the open road you could make a strong case for yourself.

I know very little about the law but one thing I do know is that it goes to extreem lengths not to be seen as discrimitory.


Skyryder

Very good point.
I wonder how this would stand up in court?
If you could do this then isn’t the 250 restriction under the same umbrella?
Not to get 15 year olds on RR1000's but to get 15 year olds OUT of twin turbo go faster karts.

[Pancakes]

[QUOTE=Skyryder]
It was not very long ago that the court ruled that it was 'discrimitory' for drivers under the age of twentyfive to be pulled over if the car they were driving was displaying the yellow and black 25 age sticker. This was the anti theft sticker that stated no one under the age of twenty five would be driving the vehicle.

I put one of those stickers on my car when I was 22, got pulled over heaps initially and pissed the cops right off. Once it got scrapped I binned the sticker.

[Smorg]

I beg to differ - 130k on a GN would be a lot scarier than 70k... for a start, the wind buffeting from the faster vehicle required to tow you up to that speed would surely scare the pants of a learner!

Can't say i had GN's i mind

[Brains]

L plates can fall off you know.. stay with the traffic, else you'll just get squashed by the traffic, and that's really no fun.. Cops recognise this, so don't draw attention on the road, and you'll be fine

Hmm, have you met Bruce? All he does is attract attention, I think he gets about 30,000K outta his front tire coz he never uses it.

Purchased my L plate 18 hours before I had to sit my restricted, had the L plate on for about 19 hours. 70ks on the open road is no good, they really need to revisit it, wouldn't mind having restricted bikes like they do in the UK, restrict then to 250cc type hp, then on the restricted licence, get them restricted to 400cc type hp, everyone wins. Beats cruising round at 70.

[Ms Piggy]

Have not read all the posts on this so if someone else has responded iin a like manner........................

The fact that L plate 'drivers' have no speed restrictions on the open road whilst L plate motorcyclists do leads me to believe that here is a classic case of discrimination.

It was not very long ago that the court ruled that it was 'discrimitory' for drivers under the age of twentyfive to be pulled over if the car they were driving was displaying the yellow and black 25 age sticker. This was the anti theft sticker that stated no one under the age of twenty five would be driving the vehicle.

Given the fact that the police do have powers to ticket drivers who they deem are going to slow. Just not too sure of what that speed would be but 70 k's on the open road is not only slow but downright dangerous.

I am of the opinion that if you were ticketed for exceeding the Learner speed on the open road you could make a strong case for yourself.

I know very little about the law but one thing I do know is that it goes to extreem lengths not to be seen as discrimitory.


Skyryder

Yes totally agree with ya. It seems incredibly descrimanatory that a young person at age 16 can go and get whatever cc car they like and legally travel up to 100 km/hr on the open road. Whereas I am legally only allowed to ride up to a 250cc motor bike and travel at 70km/hr.

It's very frustrating. Although I don't think the motorbike license should be changed, I think the car license restrictions should be!

Btw - my speeding ticket didn't reflect that I should have been going 70, I was only charged for going 11kms over the speed limit when I could havew been charged a lot more!

[Brains]

Yes totally agree with ya. It seems incredibly descrimanatory that a young person at age 16 can go and get whatever cc car they like and legally travel up to 100 km/hr on the open road. Whereas I am legally only allowed to ride up to a 250cc motor bike and travel at 70km/hr.

It's very frustrating. Although I don't think the motorbike license should be changed, I think the car license restrictions should be!

Btw - my speeding ticket didn't reflect that I should have been going 70, I was only charged for going 11kms over the speed limit when I could havew been charged a lot more!

Yeah, but riding a motorcycle we get a heck of alot of freedom, remember a learner driver in a car has to have a fully licenced person with them - that just couldn't work with a bike. So if the 70k speed limit is removed from a learner rider, what difference is there between a learner bike and restricted bike? And no, I don't agree with the 70K limit, but I don't see many other ways of doing it, especially ways that wouldn't tax rider's even more.

[Phurrball]

The fact that L plate 'drivers' have no speed restrictions on the open road whilst L plate motorcyclists do leads me to believe that here is a classic case of discrimination.

It was not very long ago that the court ruled that it was 'discrimitory' for drivers under the age of twentyfive to be pulled over if the car they were driving was displaying the yellow and black 25 age sticker. This was the anti theft sticker that stated no one under the age of twenty five would be driving the vehicle.

Given the fact that the police do have powers to ticket drivers who they deem are going to slow. Just not too sure of what that speed would be but 70 k's on the open road is not only slow but downright dangerous.

I am of the opinion that if you were ticketed for exceeding the Learner speed on the open road you could make a strong case for yourself.

I know very little about the law but one thing I do know is that it goes to extreem lengths not to be seen as discrimitory.

Skyryder

You make a worthy point Skyrider, but unfortunately the whole 70 kay llimit and L plate are conditions of the licence (Hence $400 fine and 25 demerits I believe). The 'over 25' thing had nothing to do with licence conditions, and was discrimination on an illegal ground (See s19 in the NZ Bill of Rights act 1990 which applies to state institutions; s21(1)(I) Human Rights Act 1993)

Am in L(ooser) plate category myself, and I agree with the sentiments in this thread...considering what may befall my L...

[T.I.E]

"L" plates fall off all over the place. go with the flow of the traffic if they are doing 100 do 100. i think all bikers will back you up on this. its way to dangerous having a pissed off prick sitting up ya arse thinking he is clever.
go with the flow long as you are not doing anything stupid the police won't see any need of pulling you over.

[Brett]

my hands accidently got attached to my L plate, broke some of it off, all bar a little yellow corner, and threw the rest somewhere i have forgotten...

70 is stupid. much over 100kph is working a 250cc quite hard, and i dont like brutalising my bike too much.