VJ Day (Victory over Japan)

**SARGE** · 19th August 2005, 15:20

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

The Kiwi's made a mess of the German paras in Crete and they were dropped at less than 3000 feet. Plus we were only using SMLE's, BREN's and Bofors.
Once the chute's open you're a clay target.

sure Lou.. during the day.. and with an armed populace / Militia you would get a few of them. but then you would also have one or 2 slip by.. blow the Harbor Bridge and the oil refinery..sink the ferry's and paralize NZ

or.. a more realistic scenario.. they just show up at the Auckland Airport and Auntie Helen is there with a bunch of flowers,a residency permit and a dole check

**Ixion** · 19th August 2005, 15:26

Originally Posted by SARGE

sure Lou.. during the day.. and with an armed populace / Militia you would get a few of them. but then you would also have one or 2 slip by.. blow the Harbor Bridge and the oil refinery..sink the ferry's and paralize NZ

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I recall a few Frogs who had a similar notion. Think it might take a bit more than that to paralyse NZ. Besides, are we talking terrorists now, or invasion?

Terrorists will always slip through if they're determined enough. But terrorism is a different matter to conquest.

**Wolf** · 19th August 2005, 15:28

Originally Posted by SARGE

they just show up at the Auckland Airport and Auntie Helen is there with a bunch of flowers,a residency permit and a dole check

Wrong on two counts:

1) we have cheques here in NZ, and

2) the dole is direct credited to your account...

**TonyB** · 19th August 2005, 15:37

Originally Posted by Wolf

Wrong on two counts:

1) we have cheques here in NZ, and

2) the dole is direct credited to your account...

So she will direct them to the nearest Kiwi Bank, get them to open an account, and THEN pay them the dole?

**Wolf** · 19th August 2005, 15:41

Originally Posted by TonyB

So she will direct them to the nearest Kiwi Bank, get them to open an account, and THEN pay them the dole?

Then the question they will need answered is: Will Dupont give them a discount on the explosives if they present their Community Services cards?

**Lou Girardin** · 19th August 2005, 15:46

Don't ACT say that the dole saps your will to live?
We'll social service the bastards till they surrender.
If that fails, we'll make them marry gay, ethnic whales.
That'll learn 'em to mess with us.

**SARGE** · 19th August 2005, 15:46

Originally Posted by Ixion

I recall a few Frogs who had a similar notion. Think it might take a bit more than that to paralyse NZ. Besides, are we talking terrorists now, or invasion?

Terrorists will always slip through if they're determined enough. But terrorism is a different matter to conquest.

i personally think that a full scale invasion is not in the cards.. with the intelligence capabilities the world governments have at thier disposal, i doubt that any standing invasion force would be able to mount an attack without someone knowing well in advance..(hmmm.. a huge flotilla steaming south??... wonder what they are up to??..)

more likely to be a commando/ terrorist action rather than an invasion.

NZ needs a strong militia / police force / etc

**Ixion** · 19th August 2005, 15:52

Originally Posted by SARGE

i personally think that a full scale invasion is not in the cards.. with the intelligence capabilities the world governments have at thier disposal, i doubt that any standing invasion force would be able to mount an attack without someone knowing well in advance..(hmmm.. a huge flotilla steaming south??... wonder what they are up to??..)

more likely to be a commando/ terrorist action rather than an invasion.

NZ needs a strong militia / police force / etc

Agree with that.

**Lou Girardin** · 19th August 2005, 15:57

And the right to bear arms?

**Wolf** · 19th August 2005, 16:01

Originally Posted by SARGE

NZ needs a strong militia / police force / etc

and a damn good crystal ball to tell us where the buggers are hiding and what their plans are. The worst part of terrorism is that you usually don't know what's afoot until there's someone standing three feet from you brandishing a switch on a stick.

That is where terrorism mainly differs from conventional war - it is very much based on individuals and surprise rather than something large-scale (that can be seen from a spy satellite or by anyone watching the border).

Police and Militia would be all well and good, but they would need to know where to focus their attention. Being well armed and well trained means bugger all if you have know idea of where your enemies are and where they will strike next.

**SARGE** · 19th August 2005, 16:01

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

And the right to bear arms?

damn skippy... thats why the USA has never / will never be subject to a full scale military action ( they had to resort to covert actions.. not an invasion..)

too many crazy redneck motherfuckers like me with 12 Ga. shotguns, hunting rifles and saturday night specials. open season on the invaders??... no limit??.. no license??.. YEEE- frikkin- HAWWW!!!

**onearmedbandit** · 19th August 2005, 16:02

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

And the right to bear arms?

A bit of sensitivity would be appreciated Lou.

**TonyB** · 19th August 2005, 16:02

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

And the right to bear arms?

But we don't have any bears!

**TonyB** · 19th August 2005, 16:05

Seriously though- there are supposed to be huge oil reserves in Antarctica. If thats true then I guess sooner or later someone is going to make a play for it. Hopefully we won't be considered a convinient staging post.