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    Why don't many people ride motards on the road?

    Or at least they don't, from what I've seen. Is there something wrong with them or that make them not so good for road use? pro's? cons?
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    Real motards are derived from reasonably highly tuned dirt bikes, they don't last long as a commuter and even less as a tourer. Then there are the motard STYLE bikes, which are largely a marketing excercise, basically a std nekid bike with dirt trim.

    I like nekid bikes. Even for touring. When you're a big girl you might look at one of these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-587528831.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Real motards are derived from reasonably highly tuned dirt bikes, they don't last long as a commuter and even less as a tourer. Then there are the motard STYLE bikes, which are largely a marketing excercise, basically a std nekid bike with dirt trim.

    I like nekid bikes. Even for touring. When you're a big girl you might look at one of these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-587528831.htm
    So say a dzr400, ktm duke 390 etc still fit into the not lasting long brigade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    So say a dzr400, ktm duke 390 etc still fit into the not lasting long brigade?
    DRZSM isn't that high-strung, could be a good choice if you're not too challenged in the inside leg department. Very buzzy on the motorway though.

    All of the Dukes are really jusst straight nekids, designed for the road from the get-go. Very nice machines, I might well be tempted by one of these when they eventually hit the 2nd hand market.

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    Proper motards like the SXV550 etc, while a hoot, have a ridiculous gas range, reserve light coming on around 100km. Also uncomfortable for longer rides.

    Had a KTM 990 SM, didn't really work in the sport touring department, but what a wicked bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Proper motards like the SXV550 etc, while a hoot, have a ridiculous gas range, reserve light coming on around 100km. Also uncomfortable for longer rides.

    Had a KTM 990 SM, didn't really work in the sport touring department, but what a wicked bike!
    Why was it no good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Why was it no good?
    It's a supermoto, great for fun rides, I tried to add luggage racks, told the shop I wanted more fuel capacity, better fuel consumption etc. The shop thought I was mad.

    After breaking this and that, clearly it wasn't happy having luggage racks, I gave up and moved to the GSA, which is a better base to build from, for my needs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Why was it no good?
    He tends to carry a bit of luggage. And even though they're a V twin, (as opposed to the smaller motards being singles) they're still quite high maintenance.

    But I think you're on the right track, mid-range naked V twins in particular represent good value. Easy to ride, more forgiving power delivery, lower maintenance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    He tends to carry a bit of luggage. And even though they're a V twin, (as opposed to the smaller motards being singles) they're still quite high maintenance.

    But I think you're on the right track, mid-range naked V twins in particular represent good value. Easy to ride, more forgiving power delivery, lower maintenance...
    Can you recommend any naked bikes or motards that are LAMS approved? just to LOOK at and put on the wish list....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Can you recommend any naked bikes or motards that are LAMS approved? just to LOOK at and put on the wish list....
    There's the Hyosungs, 250 and 650 sports, look OK but the build quality is not high and technically they're a bit agricultural.

    There's a few Ducati Monsters that fall in that category.

    I always had a soft spot for these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-585525326.htm

    Very good quality build, lovely handling, easy to live with and nice to look at. That one's done bugger all work too...

    The baby Dukes are nice, not sure if the 390 is LAMS approved, but they're all relatively recent and therefore comparitively expensive. They'd not tourers, though, made for weekend scratching and OK for commuting but as with G's 990 they don't do luggage well.

    More will come to me with time, I suspect...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    not sure if the 390 is LAMS approved,

    More will come to me with time, I suspect...
    390s on the list, the monsters are super pricy, vtr250? still a 250 tho and getting harder to find with low kms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    There's the Hyosungs, 250 and 650 sports, look OK but the build quality is not high and technically they're a bit agricultural.

    There's a few Ducati Monsters that fall in that category.

    I always had a soft spot for these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-585525326.htm

    Very good quality build, lovely handling, easy to live with and nice to look at. That one's done bugger all work too...

    The baby Dukes are nice, not sure if the 390 is LAMS approved, but they're all relatively recent and therefore comparitively expensive. They'd not tourers, though, made for weekend scratching and OK for commuting but as with G's 990 they don't do luggage well.

    More will come to me with time, I suspect...
    I was thinking something maybe where I sit more upright? hmmmm....??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Can you recommend any naked bikes or motards that are LAMS approved? just to LOOK at and put on the wish list....
    motard.. Yamaha XT660X... they are not just a XT660R dirt version with a 17' front wheel..yamaha twicked
    the front geometry diffrent forks to reduce the rake/trail to give better road handleing..bigger brakes.
    the XT660 motor has more hp than a XR650r but is still lams legal , will do 100,000km first
    engine life so buying one with 30,000 odd k on it isn't a issue..
    But they are not light.. 165kgs.. they do hold there prise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-blen View Post
    motard.. Yamaha XT660X... they are not just a XT660R dirt version with a 17' front wheel..yamaha twicked
    the front geometry diffrent forks to reduce the rake/trail to give better road handleing..bigger brakes.
    the XT660 motor has more hp than a XR650r but is still lams legal , will do 100,000km first
    engine life so buying one with 30,000 odd k on it isn't a issue..
    But they are not light.. 165kgs.. they do hold there prise...

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Sear...ch_suggested=6
    Hey they look nice, you sure they're lams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    Or at least they don't, from what I've seen. Is there something wrong with them or that make them not so good for road use? pro's? cons?
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