Yamaha R150 or Hyosung GTR250?

**Drew** · 14th May 2013, 21:28

Originally Posted by j_redley

How do the cops know which have the LAMS restriction and which don't?

They don't I guess. If it's registered LAMs legal and isn't visibly altered you should be sweet. But it has to start out as a LAMs compliant bike.

The GSXf thingie is a much bigger and costly job to de-restrict.

**Glowerss** · 14th May 2013, 21:53

Originally Posted by j_redley

How do the cops know which have the LAMS restriction and which don't?

They're called different things on the rego labels. Hyodung gt650r vs hyodung GT650RCL.

You can ride some non-Lams bikes as they're likely to show up as being LAMS on the rego label. So unless the coppa knows bikes and digs real deep, you'd be sweet.

The Cb400 superfours didn't used to be LAMS approved, but the rego on those read CB400, which were. So while it was technically illegal, odds of you getting pulled on it were really, really, REALLY low.

Some shit like that still exists. FZR400s for example. The earlier FZR 400 TJ series are LAMS approved, but the 3tj and the RR ones are not. However, most em just read FZR400 on the rego, and TBH most cops assume anything 400 is LAMS approved anyway.

That all being said, I would guess most cops are gonna look a lot closer at higher capacity bikes then they are low ones. A 650 is going to get a lot more scrutiny then a 400 for example. So if you do get a hyosung 650 make sure it's the lams version, and if you do fuck with it, be subtle

**Mushu** · 14th May 2013, 22:03

The ninja 300 is a complete waste of time, almost no difference to the fuel injected 250, to ride it feels like the same bike.

Go for one of the LAMS bikes, if I could do it again I'd have skipped the ninja and gone straight for the DR650 I own now, there are heaps to choose from, personally I'd stay away from the hyobags when there's so much choice available in the big jap manufacturers. Sit on a few and see what you like.

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**nzspokes** · 14th May 2013, 22:05

Get a Hornet 250 and learn to ride it well.

**McFatty1000** · 14th May 2013, 22:53

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Get a Hornet 250 and learn to ride it well.

+1 - vtr250 or something of the like are awesome bikes.

**Ender EnZed** · 15th May 2013, 00:45

Originally Posted by Erelyes

If you want finance and a warranty, buy a second hand from a dealer.

+1

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-589401745.htm

And if you do want a full new bike warranty have a look at one of these:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-584140377.htm

**j_redley** · 15th May 2013, 08:34

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

+1

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-589401745.htm

And if you do want a full new bike warranty have a look at one of these:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-584140377.htm

My brother has just got a Suzuki, and to be honest I didn't like it. It felt slightly too small and upright for my liking. I like the Honda's too, but until now I've been leaning towards a full fairing bike or at least one with a front fairing for ease on longer rides, since thats more of what I'll be looking at.

**Erelyes** · 15th May 2013, 20:06

Originally Posted by Mushu

The ninja 300 is a complete waste of time, almost no difference to the fuel injected 250, to ride it feels like the same bike.

I'd read glowing magazine reviews, but good to hear from someone in the real world about the 300 vs the 250. How long has the 250 come in an FI variant though - a year?

**Mushu** · 15th May 2013, 20:28

Originally Posted by Erelyes

I'd read glowing magazine reviews, but good to hear from someone in the real world about the 300 vs the 250. How long has the 250 come in an FI variant though - a year?

Just came out in 2012 so I had to buy one, I've never ridden a carby one but the numbers suggest there is fuck all difference between the 2

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**sil3nt** · 15th May 2013, 21:32

Not sure why people are bashing the ninja 300. Only thing wrong with it is the price!

**Glowerss** · 15th May 2013, 22:57

Originally Posted by j_redley

My brother has just got a Suzuki, and to be honest I didn't like it. It felt slightly too small and upright for my liking. I like the Honda's too, but until now I've been leaning towards a full fairing bike or at least one with a front fairing for ease on longer rides, since thats more of what I'll be looking at.

Fairings on sports bikes do shit fuck all really. They're there more for looks then for any real wind protection. All they're going to do is make the bike worse in a cross wind.

If you're looking for a bike to do longer trips on, the 3 most important criteria are, how far can the blasted thing go on a tank of petrol, what are the ergonomics like (not too cramped, legs got some room to spread, not too far leaned over ect) and Seat quality.

Your ass and mental fatigue are the biggest limiting factors on longer trips. I can't imagine anyone having to stop and give their arms a rest from holding on

I did a trip down to New Plymouth from Auckers on the Hornet, and I wouldn't have noticed any difference on a ninja or a hyodung wind blast wise.

A good quality seat and a comfy bike are far more important!

Originally Posted by sil3nt

Not sure why people are bashing the ninja 300. Only thing wrong with it is the price!

It's a good looking bike, I'll give it that, but most peoples problem IS the price. Selling them here for TWICE the price of that in the US is a pisstake. It's a 10k bike that has worse specs from bikes 20+ years ago. My hornet will be a better ride any day. It's an extremely beige commuter bike dressed up in a party frock. They sound Fkn awful too

There are huge amounts of LAMS bikes out there that'll do everything better then the ninja for thousands less. All those bikes Colemans' imported would be a far nicer bike then the ninja 300s, and will have the added bonus of not being one of 10,000 riding one. The GSR400s are seriously cool bikes. The KTM 390 kicks the ninjas ass in every way as well

**nzspokes** · 15th May 2013, 23:05

Originally Posted by Glowerss

Fairings on sports bikes do shit fuck all really. They're there more for looks then for any real wind protection. All they're going to do is make the bike worse in a cross wind.

Put a screen on your hornet and tell me it dont make a difference. The Bandit fairing worked very well.

**Mushu** · 16th May 2013, 01:58

Originally Posted by Glowerss

Fairings on sports bikes do shit fuck all really. They're there more for looks then for any real wind protection. All they're going to do is make the bike worse in a cross wind.

That's bullshit, I could quite comfortably max out my ninja (155ks) with almost no wind resistance on my body if I put my head down a bit, or stay mostly dry in the rain on my R6, neither of those things is possible on my brother in laws VTR250.

If you're looking for a bike to do longer trips on, the 3 most important criteria are, how far can the blasted thing go on a tank of petrol, what are the ergonomics like (not too cramped, legs got some room to spread, not too far leaned over ect) and Seat quality.

While I disagree that fairings do nothing I have to agree that ergonomics and fuel range are more important (you can replace a seat), neither of my bikes go as far as I'd like, but I do find both of them comfortable.

As far as the 300 ninja goes, I do find them a decent bike (I liked my ninja 250 and they are pretty much the same bike) but considering the hype and the difference in price, really not worth it when you can easily get a good second hand 250 or something bigger (from the LAMS list) for half what you'd pay for a 300, and if you don't damage it you can sell it on for almost the same amount when you upgrade.

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