Motu involved in motorcycle accident!

[Jackrat]

Good idea, especially considering I had a car swerve in front of me a few rides ago while trying to pass, Not sure what his problem was but there wasnt another car in sight, when I went to past he deliberatly and rapidly swerved in front of me I was only just able to avoid him, once past I looked back and gave him the finger only to have him waving it back, felt like following him and hunting him down, but this was one car that was best to be as far away from as possible!, in all my years of biking this is the only case where I have had a cage have a serious go at taking me out, any others experinced similar?

First off MOTU you is a bloody hero mate,I have had a similar thing happen to me,I got out of it but don,t really know how,ended up on the foot path so shook up I couldn,t roll a smoke.
As for having a car try to take me out,Yes riding down the southern motor way I had a woman cross two lanes in an atempt to hit me.
I still have no idea what her game was but she followed me for a couple of km's before she did it.She was looking me in the eye as she came across the lanes at me so I know it was the real thing.I can only asume she mistooke me
for someone else.I was riding a 750 bonnie at the time so maybe she had an issue with british bike riders.

[Motu]

Glad to hear you were able to help, mate.

I hope I'm not involved in something like that, even as a spectator.

I should point out though, that you mentioned you tried to take her helmet off.

From what I've been told, you should never try to take someone's helmet off at an accident unless you are a trained medical professional, as there is a possibility of doing spinal cord damage if there are chipped bones in the neck, etc.

However, who am I to be negative. Well done Motu. I hope there's someone like you around if it ever happens to me!

I am aware about not taking a helmet off,but as I saw the whole thing and was checking her out,I was pretty sure she had no injuries,she objected because she was just plain freaking out,but anyway,I didn't take it off.My main concern was to get her breathing better.

[750Y]

... in all my years of biking this is the only case where I have had a cage have a serious go at taking me out, any others experinced similar?

3 times, pretty damn scary, made me feel nauseous.

Back to the thread:
hope she's ok, although it sounds it.
Interesting to ponder what role the 'loud exhaust' played in this scenario.
ride careful out there people.

[Firefight]

I am aware about not taking a helmet off,but as I saw the whole thing and was checking her out,I was pretty sure she had no injuries,she objected because she was just plain freaking out,but anyway,I didn't take it off.My main concern was to get her breathing better.

Intersting point that you bring up re helmet removal, it used to be widely discouraged by ambos the practice of helmet removal prior to their arrival, however, as you rightly mentioned you concern for her breatheing, should always take first priority, helmet removal should normally be attempted with a minium of two , 1) to hold neck and skull in neutral alignment second person should then remove helmet, We are taught that if airway obstruction is a problem, then you should attempt to remove helmet, I remember a senior paramedic drawing a cross on the black board, and telling us "If their non breathing, and you do not attempt helmet removal They will die! !, always think the old A, B, C,. My fire crew all practice helmet removal in there Co- responder ambulance training, IMHO, all riders should be fimiluar with this basic skill. any way sounds like you were well onto it Motu, good on you..

firefight.

[Andrew]

Intersting point that you bring up re helmet removal, it used to be widely discouraged by ambos the practice of helmet removal prior to their arrival, however, as you rightly mentioned you concern for her breatheing, should always take first priority, helmet removal should normally be attempted with a minium of two , 1) to hold neck and skull in neutral alignment second person should then remove helmet, We are taught that if airway obstruction is a problem, then you should attempt to remove helmet, I remember a senior paramedic drawing a cross on the black board, and telling us "If their non breathing, and you do not attempt helmet removal They will die! !, always think the old A, B, C,. My fire crew all practice helmet removal in there Co- responder ambulance training, IMHO, all riders should be fimiluar with this basic skill. any way sounds like you were well onto it Motu, good on you..

firefight.

Good point FF. I'm involved in a riding a high risk transport, yet I'd have no idea about what to do in an emergency situation. Better do something about that - quickly!

[What?]

...Last evening I was going for a walk,Uriah Heep on the discman...

Hope it wasn't "Look At Yourself", Motu. That could be too ironic, or worryingly prophetic
Now you've displayed your musical taste, perhaps you could run a poll to see who knows what your signature is

[Motu]

It was Salsbury,haven't heard it for years,but just scored an MP3 of the net.

In a week or so I will put up the second verse,then at least they will know what it's about,artist and album are open for guesses.

[Sycophant]

I've done two or three first aid courses in the past (although all my certs have expired currently) and on each course we have be instructed in and practiced helmet removal for motorcyclists.

We were trained to do just as firefight said. One person stablises and supports the head and neck while the other carefully removes the helmet.

I was recently second on the scene of an almost identical car vs. cyclist accident. Was quite a scare. I've been meaning to re-certify in first aid since then, and add a decent first aid kit to my bike.

[Motu]

Had my first aid kit stolen from my van last year,haven't got around to replacing it yet.I can only hope I personaly don't need it...but when I do need it,and don't have one...that it's the prick who nicked it !

[Jackrat]

It was Salsbury,haven't heard it for years,but just scored an MP3 of the net.

In a week or so I will put up the second verse,then at least they will know what it's about,artist and album are open for guesses.

I know,I know.
But I think I will keep it to meself for now :sly:

[What?]

I know,I know.
But I think I will keep it to meself for now :sly:

Me three. Us old buggers gotta stick together.

[Marmoot]

Sounds like the car turned with a pretty rapid pace. Otherwise, the car's back would've grazed the bike and the bike would rather forced to lowside instead of T-boning the car (by your definition of the damage).

In that case, I would've been in the accident as well had it were me on the bike.

I know a lot of drivers do those things, especially when they're not sure of the area (i.e. looking for an address). They just turn the friggin wheel when their brain (or spouse) yells "TURN RIGHT HERE!".

Not only on roads, but on M'way as well. Nearly got wiped by a stupid old Holden this morning when I was driving in the M'way. I was in the middle lane, and the Holden just *whizzz* past in front of me from right hand lane straight to left hand lane just because it almost missed the exit. No Indicator. Had the person in front of me braked even slightly, it would mean 3-car pile up.

[toads]

Good on ya Motu, you stopped and offered assistance, I've been on the scene of a serious accident before and I know how the victim appreciates the sort of care you showed, being in shock they don't think about it until a few days later, but you did good, I know I went and did a cpr course after the accident I attended and I am ultra saftey conscious now, although some accidents are just plain unavoidable

[pete376403]

I've been thinking how different bikes would do in this situation and what I myself would have done - never been a spectator to this before,I've always played the lead role.

I think the rider of a sport bike might not of come out as well - head and arms down,I think they might not of broken a leg,but done upper body damage.An adventure bike like I ride would have the leg damage,but as they sit much taller than a Harley they would hit the road much harder and do some damage to upper body...arms,hands,collar bones etc..

A firend was taken out by a car turning, he was riding a BMW Funduro- broken forearn where it hit the car windscreen pillar, two fractured lower legs when they either hit the handlebars or the impact with the road, plus assorted abrasions. This guy was wearing full safety gear and the speed was estimated at 30 - 40 km,(he had just started off from a gas station)

[FROSTY:Me]

I was "unlucky" enough a few years ago to find myself in a similar situation.
through avondale at night on the main road a car started to pull out on me from a side street --
No sweat--on the picks,slow down--then he stopped the car and was looking at me--"great" I think" He's seen me now -panic over"--back on the gas and away --except he changed his mind -pulls away again and I'm 3 m away from him.
-flick the bike over to avoid him -flick it back to avoid the oncoming traffic
--sweet Im fine --except for the raised pedestrian island smack bang in the middle of the road.
concrete hurts motorbikes when ya hit it at 50 km/h
theyve changed that island now -go figure