CB400 Super Four

[Grashopper]

I’ve been having my eye on these bikes for quite a while now. So far I’ve heard only good things about them and what makes them even more interesting for me is that they are supposed to have quite a low seat height. Even though I won’t be able to afford a new bike at the moment I still can dream, right? So I’ve been keeping my eye out and found one (two now from the same dealer) on Trademe. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701570.htm

I know it is a dealership (probably answering my own question here…), but that seems very expensive to me for an 8 year old 400 cc bike. Haven’t seen any others on Trademe the last few months but this one has been there at least since the Lams thread. So is that what I would have to expect if I want to go for a Super Four? I could get a new 300 Ninja for nearly the same price (If I wanted one…) or a new 390 Duke from September on for only a couple grand more. Ok, both totally different bikes, but you get my drift.

[unstuck]

Nice looking bikes, never ridden one myself though. Price does seem a bit high, but as you say they are a dealer and have a shitloads of overheads to meet. At least it is a Honda so you can be as gay as you want to be.

And yes dreams are free, but then I have found that dreams have a funny way of coming true. Good luck.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I’ve been having my eye on these bikes for quite a while now. So far I’ve heard only good things about them and what makes them even more interesting for me is that they are supposed to have quite a low seat height. Even though I won’t be able to afford a new bike at the moment I still can dream, right? So I’ve been keeping my eye out and found one (two now from the same dealer) on Trademe. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-576701570.htm

I know it is a dealership (probably answering my own question here…), but that seems very expensive to me for an 8 year old 400 cc bike. Haven’t seen any others on Trademe the last few months but this one has been there at least since the Lams thread. So is that what I would have to expect if I want to go for a Super Four? I could get a new 300 Ninja for nearly the same price (If I wanted one…) or a new 390 Duke from September on for only a couple grand more. Ok, both totally different bikes, but you get my drift.

Who is the crack addled fuckwit sales drone that thinks that is worth EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS. To quote Daryl Kerrigan "Tell 'im e's dreeeeemin".

Stealerships like that do more to discourage beginner motorbike riders than ANY Gubblemunt initiative in my view.

For HALF that money you could get this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=602813775

not LAMS approved but fuck that anyway. Ride what you want. Or spend 8 grand on a mid 90's GSXR Thou.

[FJRider]

I know it is a dealership (probably answering my own question here…), but that seems very expensive to me for an 8 year old 400 cc bike.

It does seem it is a high price ... but at 20,00 km's ... it hasn't gone far. And it is looking in bloody good condition.

However ...

The Insurance FROM $7.71 a week. Do the maths for 52 weeks per year and multiply by the total years of the repayments ... but be aware that rate would be for experienced full licensed riders ... and probably over 25 years of age too.
And don't forget to add (find out) the interest (18% maybe more .. ???) to add to the listed price (do the maths on that too).

And find out what Trade in price for the GN they'll give you. But I'm sure you WILL find it is expensive ... more than an eight year old bike should be. Regardless of condition and mileage.

[ktm84mxc]

The asking price will be a guide, you should be able to get it for less.
A sports 600/650 are all available for the CB's asking price, take your pick it's a buyers market.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The asking price will be a guide, you should be able to get it for less.
A sports 600/650 are all available for the CB's asking price, take your pick it's a buyers market.

OP is on a learner licence so the supply/demand equation is distorted.

[Grashopper]

OP is on a learner licence so the supply/demand equation is distorted.

Lol, Restricted now Not that it makes any difference.

[gammaguy]

There are literally thousands of super fours here in Singapore,they are very popular

For 8k I could buy one here and ship it to NZ,so your dealer is smoking his underwear

[Phantom Limb]

The price is bonkers I think, but they're cracking bikes. The quality of finish is excellent for a small capacity machine.

I saw one from a distance at the supermarket last week, I immediately thought 'CB1300', but when I pulled up next to it on the XJR it looked like it had shrunk in the wash! I had a blink and had to check the rego tag to ensure that I wasnt mad

[awa355]

Just look at the prices dealers asked for 88-92 250 sports bikes before the LAMs law change. $5500 for a 20+ year old 250 sports bike wasn't unusual.

Only to be expected that they will import bigger LAM s approved used bikes and aim at the top dollar.

Look at the extra finance as FJ has pointed out, then add a couple of sets of tyres, and brake pads within the 3 years on hp. It all adds up.

$2000 dep, 18% interest on the other 6g comes to $1080 per year, After 3 years, you've got a bike that has cost about $9,240 in payments. $1200+ in rego , $1200+ in insurance, at least.

If you look at the money aspect, There isnt much about motorcycling that is cheap. But then none of us give too much thought to that when we are looking at the next dream on the showroom floor.

[Glowerss]

If the only Ch400s you've seen are from Coleman's, you're not looking hard enough

Been heaps of them for sale. Most of em for 4000 or less.

Shit, you could buy http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-601132708.htm and rebuild it 6 times over for less than Colemans.

Unless you can get a cheap loan from the bank and plan on keeping it for 3+ years, no LAMS bike is worth that sort of money. The damn thing will depreciate like a stone as well. You'd be lucky to get half of that back when you sell it.

If you must upgrade, just buy a hornet for $3500ish and use that until you're ready to upgrade. Great bikes, lots of fun, be nearly the same as one of those 400s and you won't lose value on it.

[xXGIBBOXx]

I have one , love it . rides like a nana under 7000 rpm vtec kicks in at 7100 rpm ( fully vtec @ 8000 rpm ) mint twin brakes on the front stops on a dime . chain and sprokets are a little hard to find . im 100 kg 5"11 had to move the bars alittle and the shocks can go up and down abit . good size feet front and rear = fun in the hills . i brought mine as a work / keep till it dies bike

[Grashopper]

If you must upgrade, just buy a hornet for $3500ish and use that until you're ready to upgrade. Great bikes, lots of fun, be nearly the same as one of those 400s and you won't lose value on it.

I actually like my GN: It's a light weight, I can get my feet on the ground, it doesn't mind 1400 km touring on a long weekend and it's fun around corners. But a little bit more acceleration would be great. So I looked up the Hornet 250 and Wiki said it can accelerate from 0 to 100 km in 5.8 seconds. We all know that wiki is always right, but just in case: Is that right? That would make it more than twice as fast as the GN...

Hehe, re that CB1. I've seen it on Tm, but all I can do on my bike is change the oil and - if my bike doesn't explode when I start it tomorrow morning - clean the air filter. I think a 23 year old bike might be a bit too much maintenance for me.

[AllanB]

Positive they are available new in Aussie for sub $10k.

[Grashopper]

I have one , love it . rides like a nana under 7000 rpm vtec kicks in at 7100 rpm ( fully vtec @ 8000 rpm ) mint twin brakes on the front stops on a dime . chain and sprokets are a little hard to find . im 100 kg 5"11 had to move the bars alittle and the shocks can go up and down abit . good size feet front and rear = fun in the hills . i brought mine as a work / keep till it dies bike

Sounds good. What's the fuel consumption like?