A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

[unstuck]

How come we cant get parts for chinese jetskis here. The hison website wont answer my e-mails. Maybe they are still locked in court action with suzuki.

[speights_bud]

seriously arent you getting tad emotinal .weld on gear lever please.

whould they get warrent if they where that bad . why whould somone but as

much money into slick web site . to be undone by the bikes themselves.

look fine to me

Yea I'll admit to getting a bit worked up by it. but having seen other chinese bike build quality I'd be pissed if something failed unnecessarily and threw my kid under a truck....

Why would they do it i dunno, to make a quick buck? targeting & appealing to the market of ignorant new riders? To be honest, as he said to me he's not an engineer and i think they probably genuinly missed some of the design and build quality issues.

Website shouldn't have cost them shit, Sven one of the owners is a german who is a software development project manager.

WOF testers are not likely to inspect build quality, just broken shit.

My 2c

[Mushu]

WOF testers are not likely to inspect build quality, just broken shit.

Agreed, dangerous shit gets past them all the time, the difference being that a reputable manufacturer would perform a recall and fix the problem (usually at huge expense to the manufacturer), I recall one model if Prius had a problem with the brakes that could cause a crash, or one model if Civic that had an in tank fuel pump that could spontaneously burst into flames and that's just what I can recall offhand.

I don't see much chance of that happening with these, without a dealer network I'm not sure it would even be possible to perform a large scale recall.

[actungbaby]

Give them Chinese a brake. These guys are trying so hard at least. Look at em "wave" brake rotor dics, LED headlights, USD forks, tri-oval exhaust, adjustable(?) front forks, analogue/ digital meter.... They are trying hard!

But oh God please, that swingarm... Oh God no, please! Have mercy!

100 % agree okaythe swing arm but proves they tested and added bracing bar..

they didnt just got kiwi way oh she be right..and i put myself in this same catorgue.

More bike makers is good thing.. they make them for huge domestic market ditto japan.

Its not the bikes it the plant that makes them. tooling etc at this point alot be hand finished .

Not like rebots in japenses italian plants .

Id buy one looks fine to me, you know market for bikes as transportaion only...

[actungbaby]

Yea I'll admit to getting a bit worked up by it. but having seen other chinese bike build quality I'd be pissed if something failed unnecessarily and threw my kid under a truck....

Why would they do it i dunno, to make a quick buck? targeting & appealing to the market of ignorant new riders? To be honest, as he said to me he's not an engineer and i think they probably genuinly missed some of the design and build quality issues.

Website shouldn't have cost them shit, Sven one of the owners is a german who is a software development project manager.

WOF testers are not likely to inspect build quality, just broken shit.

My 2c

some perspective please if you kid (child) whoudint you check his /her bike

its 180kg max plus rider machine its not sherman tank. do you not think pushbike can break too?

Biz man in chch lost his only son.. boy keep doing wheelies on small powered bike.

Till suspension gave out.. whos fault is that ? personall responablity ..its not dads descion.

His son was young, didnt know better . but who has to live with it. i get you point mate..

yes you feel powerless sometimes been there done that..

U dont wont son riding the bike tell him not to suggest another . provide him with another simple..

No use screaming going red the face jumping up down .

Its great you care about your family its to be admired.

I be first admit with my nephew 20 my son only 3 . whould i really want riding motorbike (road) not sure.

Any bike its up to them , i sure not going push on them though be just happy probley more nephew likes cars more.

[Mushu]

100 % agree okaythe swing arm but proves they tested and added bracing bar..

they didnt just got kiwi way oh she be right..and i put myself in this same catorgue.

More bike makers is good thing.. they make them for huge domestic market ditto japan.

Its not the bikes it the plant that makes them. tooling etc at this point alot be hand finished .

Not like rebots in japenses italian plants .

Id buy one looks fine to me, you know market for bikes as transportaion only...

So go buy one, ride it for a few months and review it for us.

While you're doing that maybe a little more work on your English wouldn't go amiss (so we can understand your review). I assume from your username that you're German, English isn't that different, if someone who speaks Japanese/Chinese can do it, it should be easy for someone who speaks such a similar language.

[speights_bud]

some perspective please if you kid (child) whoudint you check his /her bike

its 180kg max plus rider machine its not sherman tank. do you not think pushbike can break too?

Biz man in chch lost his only son.. boy keep doing wheelies on small powered bike.

Till suspension gave out.. whos fault is that ? personall responablity ..its not dads descion.

His son was young, didnt know better . but who has to live with it. i get you point mate..

yes you feel powerless sometimes been there done that..

U dont wont son riding the bike tell him not to suggest another . provide him with another simple..

No use screaming going red the face jumping up down .

Its great you care about your family its to be admired.

I be first admit with my nephew 20 my son only 3 . whould i really want riding motorbike (road) not sure.

Any bike its up to them , i sure not going push on them though be just happy probley more nephew likes cars more.

So in some ways we are on the same page, a little perspective on my angle might help though. I'm a toolmaker and its my job to be fussy and pedantic and not to accept rubbish. Quality through quality...

I don't have kids yet (watch this space ) and yes if it was my kid I'd definitely put an eye over their bike. but I believe that if they are old enough to buy a bike they are old enough to learn to maintain and accept the inherent risks of riding. Ie road riding is dangerous kiddo time go grow up!

What I really mean about 'if it was my kid' Is a parent who had no mechanical or riding experience to put their eye over the bike to help the son/daughter ensure it was as safe as can be expected.

I could just see parents of that situation on Campbell live or target putting the rest of us in bad light and asking the hard questions about why are we knowingly allowing sub standard bikes in to the country from new. Bad news for all dealers and riders as a whole.

[avgas]

But you have to weigh that against deep fried dog shit and stuffed intestine soaked in cow urine served with shaved sparrow eyeballs.
On a stick.

That is why I love pies. They pack anything into those things and say its good for you......and so long as it tastes good no one cares.
4-and-20.....but who cares so long as the bastards don't sing.

[avgas]

Chinese versus the rest.

Now, if you were walking along Karangahape road and a kiwi girl stops you and says $100 for a jump sonny.

Then two Chinese girls come up and say Both of us for $100.

Which is going to give you the most 'bang' for your bucks.

Would you still pick Kiwi made ahead of cheap Chinese made?

Are there good looking Kiwi hookers? Also the only kiwis on K'rd aren't girls.
Where is Spankme?

[Dave-]

How come we cant get parts for chinese jetskis here. The hison website wont answer my e-mails. Maybe they are still locked in court action with suzuki.

Because you're 1 in a few million.

It's genuinely not worth their time to answer an email from some bloke speaking english in New Zealand.

Agreed, dangerous shit gets past them all the time, the difference being that a reputable manufacturer would perform a recall and fix the problem (usually at huge expense to the manufacturer), I recall one model if Prius had a problem with the brakes that could cause a crash, or one model if Civic that had an in tank fuel pump that could spontaneously burst into flames and that's just what I can recall offhand.

I don't see much chance of that happening with these, without a dealer network I'm not sure it would even be possible to perform a large scale recall.

To quote one of the greatest films:

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

[unstuck]

Because you're 1 in a few million.

It's genuinely not worth their time to answer an email from some bloke speaking english in New Zealand.



To quote one of the greatest films:

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

So your saying I should e-mail them in chinese??

[Mushu]

Because you're 1 in a few million.

It's genuinely not worth their time to answer an email from some bloke speaking english in New Zealand.



To quote one of the greatest films:

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

I actually thought of that fight club quote while writing that post, but having worked as a technician for a couple of manufacturers is not completely true, especially of Honda, there were a few recalls that I doubt caused accidents, including the fuel pump thing, they were catching fire when the tank was low and the pump had stopped working according to the memo

So your saying I should e-mail them in chinese??

Google translate is your friend

[jasonu]

Are there good looking Kiwi hookers? Yes except they all work in Japan. Also the only kiwis on K'rd aren't girls. Right again, FaFaFeenies (or so I am told)

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[Sable]

While you're doing that maybe a little more work on your English wouldn't go amiss (so we can understand your review). I assume from your username that you're German, English isn't that different, if someone who speaks Japanese/Chinese can do it, it should be easy for someone who speaks such a similar language.

He's not German, even the name is misspelt. He's just retarded, or dyspeptic I mean dyslexic. I don't even bother reading his posts any more, too much mental effort.

[quickbuck]

Not sure I like the idea of racing them because 1) I imagine parts would be a bitch 2) the listed max speed is 140 km/h - my 90s ZZR250 did better than that!

Parts.... Anything you can break can be replaced quite easily.......
As for top speed.... Yes, your ZZR would do better than 140, because it pokes out more than 30Hp. The New Ninjas poke out 28 and have a top speed listed of 150k. They are the fastest 250 Production Bike (5 Lap Records in last years Nationals).