A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

[Flip]

I had a couple of cheap chineese trail bikes. Used them on the farm for a few years, they did fine. They were just cheap chineese trail bikes after all. They did the job had a lot of fun and then sold them for $500 less than I brought them for.

Didnt have a problem other than the bottom shock mount broke on one, I just welded it back on, no biggie.

I could have brought a couple of DR's or AG's but they would have cost me a lot more than the $250pa these cost me.

What gets me is all the snobby elitist jap crap bike riders on the form. You sound like a bunch of old neandterthal Harley riding snobs! The chineese bikes are comming fast, it won't be long before they start making very high quality motorcycle products very cheaply.

[Mushu]

He's not German, even the name is misspelt. He's just retarded, or dyspeptic I mean dyslexic. I don't even bother reading his posts any more, too much mental effort.

He's very close to being the first person I put on my ignore list. It always seems to take me about 15 minutes to read and decipher his posts.

Parts.... Anything you can break can be replaced quite easily.......
As for top speed.... Yes, your ZZR would do better than 140, because it pokes out more than 30Hp. The New Ninjas poke out 28 and have a top speed listed of 150k. They are the fastest 250 Production Bike (5 Lap Records in last years Nationals).

You could upgrade things as you break them eventually you're sure to end up with a half decent bike lol.

My best effort was 158 on my ninja, my cousin swears he's got it up to 100mph (fi model, completely standard).

[quickbuck]

He's very close to being the first person I put on my ignore list. It always seems to take me about 15 minutes to read and decipher his posts.



You could upgrade things as you break them eventually you're sure to end up with a half decent bike lol.

My best effort was 158 on my ninja, my cousin swears he's got it up to 100mph (fi model, completely standard).

Yeah, mine will do 160 on the GPS as I brake into the corner formally known as Dunlop at Manfeild too....
Point is, it ain't all about the top speed, as you actually spend freak all time at top speed, and more about how fast you can take the corner....

[Berries]

The chineese bikes are comming fast, it won't be long before they start making very high quality motorcycle products very cheaply.

A mate recently bought two Foton utes for the less than the price of one 'standard' NZ ute. I drive a Hilux sometimes at work and was impressed with his truck. Yes they are coming, and with the backing they have they will be class leading very soon. They will still have the stigma of being Chinese, but then I am sure Japanese bikes/cars were looked at in the same way in the 60's. And hey, at least they aren't American.

[Mushu]

A mate recently bought two Foton utes for the less than the price of one 'standard' NZ ute. I drive a Hilux sometimes at work and was impressed with his truck. Yes they are coming, and with the backing they have they will be class leading very soon. They will still have the stigma of being Chinese, but then I am sure Japanese bikes/cars were looked at in the same way in the 60's. And hey, at least they aren't American.

No thanks, I'll be replacing my current car with a Ute when I move but I really don't trust any if the ones on the market these days, I'm thinking early 90s 4x4 Hilux back when they were solid and proven, easy to work on and good aftermarket support. They all seem to be built cheaply, sold cheap and throw away when the warrantee runs out these days, even the mighty Hilux.

[tigertim20]

A mate recently bought two Foton utes for the less than the price of one 'standard' NZ ute. I drive a Hilux sometimes at work and was impressed with his truck. Yes they are coming, and with the backing they have they will be class leading very soon. They will still have the stigma of being Chinese, but then I am sure Japanese bikes/cars were looked at in the same way in the 60's. And hey, at least they aren't American.

Funny you say that.

I remember watching one of the 'On Any Sunday" movies, and the narrator says something like ""And here's a strange bike from Japan called a "XXXXX" (I cant remember if it was honda or Yamaha or what but its one of the big four) take a good look folks, youll likely never see another one of these foreign creations again.

Im sure some of you have seen the same bit!!!

[unstuck]

Maybe if they cleaned up their pollution issues, they will be around long enough to prove us wrong. But I would say they all are going to die of all the shit in the air over there, and wont be around long enough. Sure their shit is cheap, cos they dont give a fuck if they are fucking up the planet while making it.

[speeding_ant]

I thought it might be a good idea to try out a chinese headlight. Within a week the reflective coating had cracked and burnt.

I asked for my money back, and they requested I break it so they can claim insurance from shipping!!!!


Needless to say, lesson learned.

[Katman]

I think it's safe to say that one day there will be Chinese motorcycle manufacturers that can produce as good an example as any other manufacturer in the world.

At the moment though, the vast majority of it is crap.

While people continue to be happy paying for crap the rate of improvement in their product will be slow.

If people were to choose 'quality' over 'cheap' the rate of improvement would increase dramatically.

[Katman]

Didnt have a problem other than the bottom shock mount broke on one, I just welded it back on, no biggie.

That could be a totally different story on a road bike.

[Katman]

The Chinese must be laughing themselves silly at our 2 dollar shop mentality.

In a similar vein, so were the Japanese back in the mid 80's in the early days of cheap Jap import cars.

They must have been having a great laugh at the crazy round eyes buying up all their cars that were due to head off to the wrecking yard.

[avgas]

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Kiwi hookers in Japan? I didn't see em when I was there.......but it probably a specialty thing/high roller etc. Must be tough though - the locals were bloody hot......

Also loved the fact that they wore short skirts with warming pads in the middle of winter for no reason except to look hot.

Don't even get me started on the Maiko's......I will have a hardon for weeks.

[avgas]

The Chinese must be laughing themselves silly at our 2 dollar shop mentality.

In a similar vein, so were the Japanese back in the mid 80's in the early days of cheap Jap import cars.

They must have been having a great laugh at the crazy round eyes buying up all their cars that were due to head off to the wrecking yard.

Don't forget the Australians........
Ford Focus - Spain
Holden Cruze - Daewoo
Holden Caddy - Daewoo
Holden Spark - Daewoo/Buick (China)
Ford Transit - Spain

and there are the various reputable "Japanese" cars that are made in Indonesia, Malaysia.......
Been told the new Mitsi Mirage once again is a Proton.

In saying that - I had more luck with the Korean made holdens than the euro or aussie ones. My aussie made Ford Laser was the worse POS I ever owned.

[nerrrd]

I think it's safe to say that one day there will be Chinese motorcycle manufacturers that can produce as good an example as any other manufacturer in the world.

Latest Kiwirider has a review of the CF Moto 650TK, I know it's a bike magazine so they probably have to be diplomatic to stay in business, but their comments are pretty positive. Couldn't find it online anywhere though, so...finish is "pretty good", "the bike has a feeling of substance; it feels well made, solid." And this one isn't so obviously a copy. Still, one of the panniers leaked, and 10 grand ain't exactly cheap.

[unstuck]

I was watching something on the telly last night about chinese made clothing and shoes, to stop them going moldy in storage and transit, they have been giving them high doses of some pretty nasty chemicals. Quite a few people who are handling these products ie... the ones unpacking containers and shop assistants, are getting some pretty nasty illnesses. There was a team from germany that went to china to see what was going on and what they found was quite disturbing. But now the chinese are getting worried that the rest of the world is going to find out what they are up to, they have moved a lot of their operations to bangladesh, because life is so cheap there, and their government is not at all worried about these people dropping dead inside clothing and shoe factories..Bit of a eye opener for this lad.