Low (dipped) vs high-beam debate

[Scuba_Steve]

One of the things I struggle with at night is major roadworks, especially if its wet, just the sheer number of flashing beacons and lights
to me defeats the purpose as they dazzle you as you try to find your way through the zigzag array of cones.

Yea now meet that dazzle at 100km/h on a corner you cannot see around.
I've meet these morons on the motorway shutting down the left lane, not before the corner as would be logical & safe, but right on the corner in a place that gives you no warning they are there until you're upon them; Only thing saving me that night was the fact no-one was in the right lane... It would have got messy if there was as it wasn't cones shutting the lane it was one of those trucks with the obnoxious brick walls attached to the back

[speeding_ant]

Didn't you read the articles that prove those lights are safe? You just got to keep your head down.

I'm sure they're safer than no light at all. You can aim the lights independently, though some cyclists prefer to aim it straight in your face

[Mushu]

Headline. HV vest to become compulsory, including a Hi beam headlight built in.

Op. Calling the OP?

OK, I am bored.

They aren't actually gonna make that hi vis shit a law are they, I know it's required in some countries in Europe.
I'll be pissed if they try regulate that shit here, pissed but but not surprised.

[Berries]

Agree with you, I would not be surprised if someone sees some random research somewhere that shows an x% reduction in motorcycle related injuries when wearing hi-viz and correlates that to meaning having hi-viz will reduce the crash rate for motorcylists in NZ. Absolute bollocks but it will happen.

Creating Safer Journeys for motorcyclists

Safer Journeys is working to improve safety for motorcyclists through a number of areas. Policy changes will be put in place, and training will be improved. There will also be improvements to roads popular with motorcyclists and enforcement targeted at careless or unsafe motorcyclists. The Accident Compensation Corporation's introduction of a motorcycle safety levy to fund motorcycle safety initiatives will also help to engage motorcyclists in efforts to improve their safety.

I don't know about anyone else but I feel engaged.

HFH.

[MrKiwi]

They aren't actually gonna make that hi vis shit a law are they, I know it's required in some countries in Europe.
I'll be pissed if they try regulate that shit here, pissed but but not surprised.

Not here in NZ, no. Not while I still have breath in my lungs...

The current research by the Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council shows the myth around Hi Viz for what it is. Hi Viz vests works in some situations but not not enough to warrant it being made mandatory. I don't believe officials are looking at making it mandatory. So the choice remains with the rider. If you want to wear it then do.

Personally when I am riding a push bike I wear it as I am the bulky bit of the deal. I need to be seen. I wear the hi viz vest in addition to those blinking led lights. However, when I am on my Triupmh Tiger 955i the bike is what is easier to see than me, especially from front on, so I use Danali LED's running in addition to my head lights to improve my conspicuity. It is harder to seem me as the rider front on because I am partially obscured by the screen.

[GTRMAN]

Not here in NZ, no. Not while I still have breath in my lungs...

The current research by the Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council shows the myth around Hi Viz for what it is. Hi Viz vests works in some situations but not not enough to warrant it being made mandatory. I don't believe officials are looking at making it mandatory. So the choice remains with the rider. If you want to wear it then do.

Personally when I am riding a push bike I wear it as I am the bulky bit of the deal. I need to be seen. I wear the hi viz vest in addition to those blinking led lights. However, when I am on my Triupmh Tiger 955i the bike is what is easier to see than me, especially from front on, so I use Danali LED's running in addition to my head lights to improve my conspicuity. It is harder to seem me as the rider front on because I am partially obscured by the screen.

I would be interested in seeing this research, can you post references please.

[MrKiwi]

I would be interested in seeing this research, can you post references please.

It is on the MotoNZ website, the literature review into conspicuity.

Here's the link - http://motonz.org.nz/assets/Uploads/...L-Report-w.pdf

Read section 5.3. The main conclusion is along the lines of:

The results are interesting in that they show the previously held assertion that a
bright reflective jacket will improve rider conspicuity may not always be true. When the
findings from Hole et al. (1996) and Rogé et al. (2011) are also considered, the message
seems to be that the most conspicuous outfit will be dictated by the lighting conditions
and local environment at the time, which may be extremely variable within the confines
of even a fairly short ride.

[OllieNZ]

Had to put my hi beam on this morning as the low was not working. Didn't get flashed at, but wouldn't do it normally
as I know how feckin annoying this is. Got new bulb on way home, problem fixed
Just my two common cents

[fridayflash]

my dr has a not particularly strong headlight, and the ventura cover saps a bit of power as well so full beam for me in the daylight

[swbarnett]

Had to put my hi beam on this morning as the low was not working.

This is why I love having dual headlights.

[Madness]

For the OP.