Dustybutt 2014?

[vegeman]

...yeah man... a real ride for sure, I'm looking forward to it...I like making it a real adventure and working out all the shit to take and more importantly not take. I've done a few two-week hunting trips in fiordland where we have to carry everything, no trails, no chopper cache of goodies...just pure slog, in a wet, steep, bug invested country...so a couple of days riding should be a doddle...as my wife once said (and she got the bash)...don't you just sit there!!!...- yeah right.



A real ride then aye

Cheers R[/QUOTE]

[gpcustom]

Gidday gpcustom, was good catching up and riding with you and CC last year. Still pissed I cant make this year Anyway I used the roll chart a couple of years ago and was good but last year decided to become a little more familiar with the gps (I didn't have a clue how to use it either) and its a shitload easier than roll chart. I can send you a loaded roll chart if you want to use that (assuming no changes from last couple of years) but if you have a gps then give it a go.

Thanks bushy I will let you know. And like wise was great riding with you and I don't have a clue who the South Africa fella is but shit he was fast on the gravel. It's a realy bummer you can't make it was looking forward to catching up with ya. There's always 2015

I realy need to pull my head in with the gps just can't seem to sort it lol

[Crim]

2 hours less daylight is one thing some of us are going to notice.

I thought you may have been exaggerating - but holy smokes looking at the sunrise / sunset charts you are looking at 15:27 between them Jan 11 and 13:11 between them Mar 2 - luckily my old girl has lights that "may" light up a barn door at 60 paces lol

[vegeman]

Hey,
Been reading and watching some vid's and really see people riding with some uber tanks, so was wondering what the realistic fuel stop intervals were. I think I read 290K's?

I can average 200K on the 690 with varying terrain, and with some throttle control a bit more...and carrying a few extra litres is fine. I saw these fuel bladders which I like the concept of, as they can be rolled up out of the way once emptied.

http://liquidcontainment.com.au/cart...ouring-Bladder

[thepom]

nice...this is what i used before my long range tank...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=663934860

[vegeman]

nice...this is what i used before my long range tank...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=663934860

yup...thats the real thing, those rotopax are solid which is required when hanging of the tail of the 690

Not sure if you have that 690 in the picture, but could help noticing the flat fuel cap, as I replaced my with the billet version from rally raid. Sure, I've lost the locking part (part that was stiff anyway) I just hated how dirt would fall in, but not now with that RR billet, its all good. Plus with the fuel filter being in the tank, we really can't afford any crap in the tank, as road side fixing of that would be a nightmare.

What tanks do you have?

[Transalper]

Big highlighted 'Assuming' the same as last year then 200km should see you just about right for all fuel stops except the big one of 290km via challenge section option, or 274km Main Route.... but there was some hope that may be fixed this year.... there is no certainty either way yet.

There was however an extra 60km off route round trip detour back to Alexandra suggested as an option to break that longest bit in to two smaller legs to top up if you couldn't go the distance, but it adds 60km of Tar (if I recall correctly) by doing the detour just to brake the leg in to too manageable ones for smaller tanks.

I like the idea of the fuel bladder but am not convinced that they will last more than a few rides from what research i did, reviews were not specifically that one.

[Waihou Thumper]

Hey,
Been reading and watching some vid's and really see people riding with some uber tanks, so was wondering what the realistic fuel stop intervals were. I think I read 290K's?

I can average 200K on the 690 with varying terrain, and with some throttle control a bit more...and carrying a few extra litres is fine. I saw these fuel bladders which I like the concept of, as they can be rolled up out of the way once emptied.

http://liquidcontainment.com.au/cart...ouring-Bladder

I have two of these, a 10 litre and a five litre. Have had these for approx three years. Work well and they are fine, but do swell in the heat, so do not overfill. Pressure builds up and they become rock hard pillows.. BUT, they do work and are strong as an ox! Mine are KTM Orange

[Waihou Thumper]

I like the idea of the fuel bladder but am not convinced that they will last more than a few rides from what research i did, reviews were not specifically that one.

The ones posted above are good and they have a proven record. I have used these for the last three years and as stated above, pluses and minuses...You still have the weight, good for saddle bag type carrying or under a roll bag, out of the way of the heat. Strong seams and well made, BUT, and a big BUT, they do not meet ANY standards....So fill at your own risk, as I was told by a local fuel station...Better than a coke bottle though aye...

[pouakai]

Prior to the rally this year I tested 'Keri' 2.4l orange juice bottles. I found them really strong, impervious to petrol, large neck which safely receives a bowser nozzle, and distributes the risk of rupture across more containers. I filled 3 with water, 1 with petrol stuffed them in my saddle bag and went for a hell for leather lap around the waimak, I threw the bike down hard enough to smash off a mirror and had no problems with any of the containers. I slightly under filled them and secured the lids with tape to provide some room for expansion.
Any station attendant will prolly have a fit but you could do much worse...
I ended up not having to use them as my safari tank arrived the day before the rally !!
P

[XF650]

I read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true) that to test a container you fill it with petrol, leave it out in the hot sun for a day then jump on it.
Tried this with 1 1/4 litre coke bottle & it was fine. Probably no Insurance though.....

[thepom]

Hi vegeman......scored a safari tank off tardme so sold my rotopax, well impressed with the safari tank, saving up for the billet fuel cap and just bought the top and bottom tank bolts before they break lol.....awesome bike but you need to spend some cash and sort out the weak points, not sure if I,m going to use KTM motorex oil as I think its ridiculously expensive....I have another oil....maxima 4 10/60 but am not sure if I,ll use it yet...still have lots of mods to do yet, tank bolts when they arrive, fan mod and maybe the thermostat switch, and fuel line and maybe the 1st and 2nd gear wire restrictor mod...

[Waihou Thumper]

I read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true) that to test a container you fill it with petrol, leave it out in the hot sun for a day then jump on it.
Tried this with 1 1/4 litre coke bottle & it was fine. Probably no Insurance though.....

Leave a filled coke bottle in the garage overnight...Wake up in the morning and you might find a red cap, a glob of plastic and a puddle on the floor...AND fumes in the garage

[pouakai]

Leave a filled coke bottle in the garage overnight...Wake up in the morning and you might find a red cap, a glob of plastic and a puddle on the floor...AND fumes in the garage

PET seems to be impervious to petrol, I have previously had petrol in a coke bottle for months with no adverse effects. Polystyrene type plastics on the other hand will dissolve in few seconds ! You need to be clear which you are dealing with. The majority of drink bottles are PET, milk bottles are something else but also stable.

[pouakai]

I read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true) that to test a container you fill it with petrol, leave it out in the hot sun for a day then jump on it.
Tried this with 1 1/4 litre coke bottle & it was fine. Probably no Insurance though.....

Sounds like an appropriate test!

You have insurance !?