Nice little earner, says Peter Dunne

[bluninja]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/election/a/...era-cash-grab/

From the article..."I think what all this subterfuge is about is police having a nice little earner,"

Even the pollies are saying what most people having been saying for a while. Mind you he did get 2 fines recently Having said that, why is Peter upset?
He is the minister for revenue gathering and the cameras brought in $50 million in revenues from last year.

Saw a van this afternoon set up at the end of a long straight overtaking lane. Van set back over the slight crest and behind a large grass bank so you can't see it till it's too late. I don't remember any accidents on that particular piece of road in the last few years, so they can't be pinging people at or near an accident hotspot so to me it's just blatant revenue gathering. I mean you don't even get points, just pay the money and keep on speeding if your wallets fat enough

[BMWST?]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/election/a/...era-cash-grab/

From the article..."I think what all this subterfuge is about is police having a nice little earner,"

Even the pollies are saying what most people having been saying for a while. Mind you he did get 2 fines recently Having said that, why is Peter upset?
He is the minister for revenue gathering and the cameras brought in $50 million in revenues from last year.

Saw a van this afternoon set up at the end of a long straight overtaking lane. Van set back over the slight crest and behind a large grass bank so you can't see it till it's too late. I don't remember any accidents on that particular piece of road in the last few years, so they can't be pinging people at or near an accident hotspot so to me it's just blatant revenue gathering. I mean you don't even get points, just pay the money and keep on speeding if your wallets fat enough

it is revenue gatherin,there is a little bay for a van on the southbound SH2 just North Of Lower Hutt station.Its a 4 lane motorway divided with a barrier two lanes each way....dangerous?Would one of the least dangerous bit of raod in the country.Why put a speed camera there....easy cos people speed there

[Wingnut]

It scares me to think idiots like Peter Dunn are still able to get into Parliament. I blame the bloody older generation of conservative Christians.

I just plain ignore anything that muppet has to say...

[rastuscat]

Sorry, usual response.

Its amazing how many vehicles go past speed cameras each day and don't get their photos taken.

I suspect it's related to the fact that they don't exceed the speed limit plus the tolerance.

Simple ideas, almost always the best.

[buggerit]

I see they are talking about bringing in point to point cameras and changing the law to allow demerit points on these and speed camera
fines.

[scumdog]

Sorry, usual response.

Its amazing how many vehicles go past speed cameras each day and don't get their photos taken.

I suspect it's related to the fact that they don't exceed the speed limit plus the tolerance.

Simple ideas, almost always the best.

I got around a lot of the North Island last month, I was driving a vehicle with a speedo that was erratic as well as read a speed slower than I was actually doing. (i.e. read 95kph - actual 103kph)

Never got my picture taken, never got pulled over...boring eh!

[superjackal]

Sorry, usual response.

Its amazing how many vehicles go past speed cameras each day and don't get their photos taken.

I suspect it's related to the fact that they don't exceed the speed limit plus the tolerance.

Simple ideas, almost always the best.

Statistically, most people drive well within the law. You can't fight the parabola - it just shifts. If everyone obeyed the law they'd just find a lower limit/another excuse.

If speed cameras raise $50M a year why not just tax every man, woman and child $12.50 a year and have no cameras? I like that solution much better.

[FJRider]

From the article..."I think what all this subterfuge is about is police having a nice little earner,"

The police don't get to keep the money. Or even decide what the money should be spent on. Those that contribute to ... and continue to contribute to the country's economy ... Treasury offers their thanks.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/election/a/...era-cash-grab/

From the article..."I think what all this subterfuge is about is police having a nice little earner,"

Even the pollies are saying what most people having been saying for a while. Mind you he did get 2 fines recently Having said that, why is Peter upset?
He is the minister for revenue gathering and the cameras brought in $50 million in revenues from last year.

Saw a van this afternoon set up at the end of a long straight overtaking lane. Van set back over the slight crest and behind a large grass bank so you can't see it till it's too late. I don't remember any accidents on that particular piece of road in the last few years, so they can't be pinging people at or near an accident hotspot so to me it's just blatant revenue gathering. I mean you don't even get points, just pay the money and keep on speeding if your wallets fat enough

I have no issue with the concept of velocity tax. Demerit points can suck my sweaty ballsack though.

[Scuba_Steve]

I got around a lot of the North Island last month, I was driving a vehicle with a speedo that was erratic as well as read a speed slower than I was actually doing. (i.e. read 95kph - actual 103kph)

Never got my picture taken, never got pulled over...boring eh!

You got that kinda speed outta your Harley... What kinda black magic is this!?

[rastuscat]

You got that kinda speed outta your Harley... What kinda black magic is this!?

Come on Skoober...........he took his Hardly up in the Westpac helichopchop and dropped it to erath. Only way he could get it to exceed the local speed limit.......

[Swoop]

The most disturbing point from all of this: the police refused an Official Information Act request.

[Maha]

Got flashed a few weeks ago, I was alongside another vechicle at the time and haven't heard a thing...mint!

[gwigs]

The most disturbing point from all of this: the police refused an Official Information Act request.

Yes I dont like that either.....refused ...can they...?

[FJRider]

Yes I dont like that either.....refused ...can they...?

Yes they can. The "Official Information Act" is not a free pass to all information that you may ask for.

9 Other reasons for withholding official information

(1) Where this section applies, good reason for withholding official information exists, for the purpose of section 5, unless, in the circumstances of the particular case, the withholding of that information is outweighed by other considerations which render it desirable, in the public interest, to make that information available.

(2) Subject to sections 6, 7, 10, and 18, this section applies if, and only if, the withholding of the information is necessary to—

(a) protect the privacy of natural persons, including that of deceased natural persons; or

(b) protect information where the making available of the information—

(i) would disclose a trade secret; or

(ii) would be likely unreasonably to prejudice the commercial position of the person who supplied or who is the subject of the information; or

(ba) protect information which is subject to an obligation of confidence or which any person has been or could be compelled to provide under the authority of any enactment, where the making available of the information—

(i) would be likely to prejudice the supply of similar information, or information from the same source, and it is in the public interest that such information should continue to be supplied; or

(ii) would be likely otherwise to damage the public interest; or

(c) avoid prejudice to measures protecting the health or safety of members of the public; or

(d) avoid prejudice to the substantial economic interests of New Zealand; or

(e) avoid prejudice to measures that prevent or mitigate material loss to members of the public; or

(f) maintain the constitutional conventions for the time being which protect—

(i) the confidentiality of communications by or with the Sovereign or her representative:

(ii) collective and individual ministerial responsibility:

(iii) the political neutrality of officials:

(iv) the confidentiality of advice tendered by Ministers of the Crown and officials; or

(g) maintain the effective conduct of public affairs through—

(i) the free and frank expression of opinions by or between or to Ministers of the Crown or members of an organisation or officers and employees of any department or organisation in the course of their duty; or

(ii) the protection of such Ministers, members of organisations, officers, and employees from improper pressure or harassment; or

(h) maintain legal professional privilege; or

(i) enable a Minister of the Crown or any department or organisation holding the information to carry out, without prejudice or disadvantage, commercial activities; or

(j) enable a Minister of the Crown or any department or organisation holding the information to carry on, without prejudice or disadvantage, negotiations (including commercial and industrial negotiations); or

(k) prevent the disclosure or use of official information for improper gain or improper advantage.