Research on motorcyclists, pillions, and non-riders

[Hitcher]

Or maybe they decided the survey was flawed and not that useful ?

Wearing a fluoro vest would compromise airbags deploying and probably doesn't do much for extra-marital sex, if the survey's findings are to be believed.

[St_Gabriel]

We are trying very hard to do unbiased research that benefits both motorcyclists and the commissioning organisations.

Freudian slip? Seems to me that that response really is the most telling of all, are motorcyclists and the commissioning organisation usually diametrically opposed???

[Madness]

Considering that I've in all likelihood contributed towards the cost of this "research" through my ACC levies, I'm a bit pissed that I can't at least see the questions. My bad, been too busy lately working my arse off to earn enough to rego my bike. Cunts.

[st00ji]

So would ACC encourage new DRZ400E to have ABS as standard?

Should all manner of bikes and all manner of riders be tarred with the same brush? I can't see anyone on an adventure bike just using the road to connect the off road fun bits seriously considering ABS and hi vis etc.

How about a commuter on a gn125 who's never seen 70km/h, all the safety gear needed is a well trained rider and textile jacket/helmet.

I have a way that can increase govt. Revenue and make the roads safer, actually train drivers and riders, stop treating licenses like peoples rights. Get VTNZ to have a training branch and make drivers go through at least 20 hours (just an idea) one on one training. And actual training, like how to navigate a wet bend when you are accidentally going too fast, how to prevent lift off oversteer etc.

How about testing drivers ability to drive more often than how safe vehicles are. What's the ratio of mechanical issues causing crashes, to driver error? License test once then it's yours for life, check a car and presume it's illegal 6 months later. I've seen plenty of crashes and heard of loads of mates crashes. Probably over 20 crashes that I've directly seen or heard from people I know, not a single one wasn't preventable if the driver knew a basic thing about driving or actually focused on driving. None were mechanical failure.

Look at Finland for licensing structure, or Germany. If you so much as fail to indicate within 2 years of getting your license you lose your license and start from scratch and you have to do supervised training. Drivers in their first year of being able to drive alone are over represented in accidents, if they have to start from L plates again if they go 52 in a 50 zone I bet they'll be staying safe and legal. It's simple shit, if the govt actually wanted to reduce the road toll I could take a $100k budget and save more lives with common sense than the past 20 years of stupidity in beuracracy (spl?).

So is this survey about safety? Or is this 'safety' about revenue?

well said! licensing is stupidly easy in this country.

[mossy1200]

If I was going to do a survey idd join a forum and be a nob for a while. Build up the posts a bit and then start some threads on the topics that hadn't already been discussed in forums. Lets face it you could troll everything you wanted to know here all the way to and including camel toe and nipples.

Now that would be sneaky like the g(5B.

[jorge84]

Or maybe they decided the survey was flawed and not that useful ?

Probably gone back to acc and said fuck those motorcyclist cunts we tried to seek there opinions but they all pissed and moaned about it so once again we'll do as we please and find some other way to fuck them in the arse. add a suspension load test to the wof process and charge us $200 for that. Might go and lube up and get ready.

[Conquiztador]

Probably gone back to acc and said fuck those motorcyclist cunts we tried to seek there opinions but they all pissed and moaned about it so once again we'll do as we please and find some other way to fuck them in the arse. add a suspension load test to the wof process and charge us $200 for that. Might go and lube up and get ready.

Amateurs they are. You put together a max 2 page questioner with the questions you want to know, make it compulsory for all bikers to do when they get their WOF and inside 12 months you have over 50% of all bikers answering it. Job done.

[Drew]

Probably gone back to acc and said fuck those motorcyclist cunts we tried to seek there opinions but they all pissed and moaned about it so once again we'll do as we please and find some other way to fuck them in the arse. add a suspension load test to the wof process and charge us $200 for that. Might go and lube up and get ready.

Right there, is a nice bit of getting the wrong end of the stick.

You didn't see the questionnaire I take it?

It was wrong a very basic level. Meaning it's results could potentially have been used to show we as a group supported any initiative they fucken wanted it to.

[Paul in NZ]

Probably gone back to acc and said fuck those motorcyclist cunts we tried to seek there opinions but they all pissed and moaned about it so once again we'll do as we please and find some other way to fuck them in the arse. add a suspension load test to the wof process and charge us $200 for that. Might go and lube up and get ready.

Or maybe remove import tarrifs on suspension components as they are now a safety upgrade.

[varminter]

Now that would be sneaky like the g(5B.[/QUOTE]

You do know that mentioning the GCSB or any derivative thereof will result in the midnight knock and water board treatment?..... Oh shit.

[Smifffy]

what's the bet that now the survey is over, Dutton never comes back?

[Coldrider]

Hello Drew, from what I know there is no push to make "safety" devices mandatory, but there is interest into what makes someone purchase a safety device. Safety devices are only one aspect that can make riders safer. We are well aware of other issues affecting riders; rider conspicuity, line painting, asphalt composition, vehicular blindsight, fatigue, etc. We plan on furthering our research as we move forward and having conversations around those topics, but right now we are starting out of the gate with understanding how motorcyclists perceive risk and safety.

Safety devices should be made mandatory. Most of the innovation and technology comes from MotoGP and Superbike. This technology trickles down to 1000cc sportsbikes first. So learners should be made to ride 1000cc sportsbikes first registered after 2011. After 2 years of experience they can ride smaller and older motorcycles which do not have the modern safety devices equipped, and when really experienced can graduate to scooters unsupervised.

[Ocean1]

and when really experienced can graduate to scooters unsupervised...

... wearing black shorts, urban camo singlet and jandels.

[The Reibz]

At what point can you bigbore kit the scooter?

[Banditbandit]

Suzuki already make big and boring scooters ... do a Google search for Burgman ...