Upgrade advice: Thoughts on these super sports bikes?

[pratik8890]

Find a budget, then buy the newest bike that you can afford, that also meets all your other requirements. I saw with some bikes you mentioned "2005-2012", the 2005 model will likely cost less than half what a 2012 model of the same bike will cost, so it's a bit hard to give advice without knowing how much you really want to spend.

Don't forget to have another $1000-1500 lying around to bring ALL the servicing up to date (including things like fork oil, brake fluid etc), unless the bike has a recent service history to prove these things have been done.

Thank you for the very imp advice, I will make sure to have a backup budget for any unkown cost after I buy the bike.

[ducatilover]

Test everything, buy whatever gives you the biggest wood.


Seriously, anything you're allowed to ride.


Early ZX10s occasionally cracked the chassis, so get which ever bike checked out.

[mossy1200]

Thanks Mossy but i'm not fan of of zx14, I'll rather have zx10r instead.

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.

[300weatherby]

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.

Will not achieve the more worthy title of Road Warrior mounted on the legendary HAYABUSA either

[Mongolian]

Seems to be some pretty sound advise here, not many people saying the usual don't buy a 1000cc sports bike because you will kill your self etc etc.

Like most people have said get which ever one feels good and looks good to you.

When i bought my ZX i was looking at bikes similar to you, my personal preference was for something Japanese, either a cbr, zx, gsxr or r1. I ended up going with the zx as i got a really good deal on it and it felt nice for me.
I love my zx and don't think im gonna part with it any time soon, it is relatively agressive, but tbh if your looking at something like a 1000cc bike you want it to be aggressive.
That being said its perfectly fine in traffic or sitting at 100k's and is pretty comfortable on long trips (aslong as you stop every few hundred k's for gas and a coffee)

FYI i also went from a 250 to 1000 and did not have any issues.
Although you may learn more on a smaller bike you will still be fine on the larger one, just have to decide for yourself I think.

[pratik8890]

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.

I'd rather go with Hayabusa If I had to choose between zx14 and Busa

Will not achieve the more worthy title of Road Warrior mounted on the legendary HAYABUSA either

There's a mint one on Trademe atm but I'm few bucks short for it so if it's still around for next few weeks then I'd be able to save enough and give it a go..

Seems to be some pretty sound advise here, not many people saying the usual don't buy a 1000cc sports bike because you will kill your self etc etc.

Like most people have said get which ever one feels good and looks good to you.

When i bought my ZX i was looking at bikes similar to you, my personal preference was for something Japanese, either a cbr, zx, gsxr or r1. I ended up going with the zx as i got a really good deal on it and it felt nice for me.
I love my zx and don't think im gonna part with it any time soon, it is relatively agressive, but tbh if your looking at something like a 1000cc bike you want it to be aggressive.
That being said its perfectly fine in traffic or sitting at 100k's and is pretty comfortable on long trips (aslong as you stop every few hundred k's for gas and a coffee)

FYI i also went from a 250 to 1000 and did not have any issues.
Although you may learn more on a smaller bike you will still be fine on the larger one, just have to decide for yourself I think.

Thank you bro, I know some of my work mates with whom I ride also said the same thing about riding a bigger bike but then one of the them gave his R1 to me and I nailed it so the other one offered me right after it and thats how I got into riding bigger motortbikes and now the time is ripe so I shall buy one for my self and enjoy the riding, they can be agreesive if you wanted them to. You are always in control unless you are drunked to get carried away but for me I dont drink just that aint gonna happen. BTW thank you for your valuable advice, really appreciate your support.

[EJK]

If you have the money to maintain the bike, sure go for it. Before I got mine no one really warned me of the cost of owning a super bike.

Remember with a decent tyre a litre bike eats them for breakfast ($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY), ticket fines if you get caught, service and maintenance (topping over $1k for the big service) to name a few. With great power comes great responsibility.

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.

[baffa]

Another vote for a daytona.

I was actually thinking that was going to be my next bike, but was worried when I finally got around to giving one a hoon itd be too small to be comfortable.

Ended up falling in love with a new gen blade. I'd still like a daytona, but Ive kinda ruined it for myself now.

[ducatilover]

There's a mint one on Trademe atm but I'm few bucks short for it so if it's still around for next few weeks then I'd be able to save enough and give it a go..

Tried riding one? Bloody mind bending things them, I imagine the 14R is much the same too. I couldn't live with a 'Busa (aside from the fact that they're fucking fat and ugly as sin), I haven't got enough self control, far, far too easy to go intant-dead speeds. Far too easy to enter corners too fast.

Plus they're fucking ugly.

Just test ride everything, even 600s, or twins. Big twins are a good laugh

[Gremlin]

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.

Used race tyre while cheaper upfront cost exactly the same as a new rear tyre as it lasted 1500km. Depends how you ride I guess, but strictly speaking, by 1500km it was a slick and probably shouldn't have gone past 1000km. You're lucky if you're fined, as the bikes will easily get you into walking territory if you don't have self control.

fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY)

Get a car that drinks more. Can't really get below 11L/100km in my V6 with around town running (make that sitting in traffic actually).

[300weatherby]

Tried riding one? Bloody mind bending things them, I imagine the 14R is much the same too. I couldn't live with a 'Busa (aside from the fact that they're fucking fat and ugly as sin), I haven't got enough self control, far, far too easy to go intant-dead speeds. Far too easy to enter corners too fast.

Plus they're fucking ugly.

Just test ride everything, even 600s, or twins. Big twins are a good laugh

Not really sure how a Busa would "bend" your mind? Contrary to popular opinion, The Busa is not some fire breathing monster that will drag you straight over the nearest bank, very few people are up to exploring where the Busa does go ballistic because you need to be up in the rev range to wake it up, they are actually quite docile- you, decide how fast you arrive at a corner, not the bike. Mine do what I tell them to....... Actually a much better choice for an inexperienced rider than a GSXR1000 or R1 or ZX10 ect.

[300weatherby]

If you have the money to maintain the bike, sure go for it. Before I got mine no one really warned me of the cost of owning a super bike.

Remember with a decent tyre a litre bike eats them for breakfast ($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY), ticket fines if you get caught, service and maintenance (topping over $1k for the big service) to name a few. With great power comes great responsibility.

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.

Worth considering this guy is not experienced enough to be eating rears, if he starts trying that hard, it won't be for long.........
Who does your insurance!!!!!?, that level of premium would make youe eyes water for sure!
Tickets? get a radar detector and practice braking (which should be practiced regardless anyway!)
Most servicing you should learn to do yourself, save money and learn, double win.

[ducatilover]

Not really sure how a Busa would "bend" your mind? Contrary to popular opinion, The Busa is not some fire breathing monster that will drag you straight over the nearest bank, very few people are up to exploring where the Busa does go ballistic because you need to be up in the rev range to wake it up, they are actually quite docile- you, decide how fast you arrive at a corner, not the bike. Mine do what I tell them to....... Actually a much better choice for an inexperienced rider than a GSXR1000 or R1 or ZX10 ect.

Who the fuck buys a Busa and doesn't open it up? They pile on speed incredibly easily without trying.
Yes, they are docile, but you'll still pile on speed faster than one expects. They don't have the greatest sensation of speed, 160 doesn't feel exciting in the least.

[mossy1200]

Who the fuck buys a 14r and doesn't open it up?, 160 doesn't feel exciting then you shift it into 2nd.

That's a lot better.

[haydes55]

Shit I'm paying under $500/annum for full insurance on my Z1000... And I'm 22.

Go with protecta insurance.

Also I vote for a jap bike. Don't do what gremlin did and get a perfect bike... You'll never get the excitement of getting a new bike again haha.



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