Upgrade advice: Thoughts on these super sports bikes?

**pratik8890** · 21st November 2013, 12:17

Hey Guys, So I am still negotiating with the owner of the 2005 cbr 1000 rr, I've offered him 7 k earlier but he declined the offer so I have emailed him today and awaiting his reply.: Below's the link

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=627958653

The seller of Suzuki GSX 600R has also come back to me with an offer of 9 k down from 10 k which includes 3 months rego and warrant but my concern is, " Is it worth paying 9K for a 7 year old
bike " ?

below's the link:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=563301525

I've also come across a new listing of Yamaha R1 2007 model in blue color and the guy has a buy now of $8750 and the starting bid of $8 k on trademe. SO you you guys reckon I could offer him with 8K to seal the deal and will it be worth it?

Below's the

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...95&permanent=0

Please share your thoughts on this. Thanking you all in advance.

**EJK** · 21st November 2013, 13:09

Originally Posted by pratik8890

I've also come across a new listing of Yamaha R1 2007 model in blue color and the guy has a buy now of $8750 and the starting bid of $8 k on trademe. SO you you guys reckon I could offer him with 8K to seal the deal and will it be worth it?

Below's the

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...95&permanent=0

Please share your thoughts on this. Thanking you all in advance.

If you don't buy that, I will (when my insurance claim cheque comes through).

**imdying** · 21st November 2013, 13:27

I know somebody with that model/colour R1... this finish is lovely, as good as the Hondas IMHO, and I would be proud to have one in my stable.

**BigAl** · 21st November 2013, 13:48

The r1, cbr and then gsxr would be my order.

8k is probably a little low but who knows?

**pratik8890** · 21st November 2013, 14:31

Originally Posted by EJK

If you don't buy that, I will (when my insurance claim cheque comes through).

What happen to ZX 10 R mate?

Originally Posted by imdying

I know somebody with that model/colour R1... this finish is lovely, as good as the Hondas IMHO, and I would be proud to have one in my stable.

I've requested him to upload few other pics from the side angle and yes the finish is just perfect

Originally Posted by BigAl

The r1, cbr and then gsxr would be my order.

8k is probably a little low but who knows?

I rate CBR/R1 on the same page with their particular model/year and I honestly dont like the 08 + model of cbr so 2005 is still good imo and gsxr would be the 2nd amongst the three.. Yeah 8 k is the number which came to my mind considering he's has put the starting bid at 8k so i guess that would be his reserve? I have also requested the seller of R1 to upload few other pics where we could see the both the sides of the bike, so just awaiting for him to upload them today. I might offer him more than 8K depending on the background/ service history of the bike. Will keep you guys in loop. Cheers.

**tigertim20** · 21st November 2013, 16:49

8k for the r1 wouldnt be bad. even 8750 isnt entirely unreasonable. I have the 08 (same model) in blue and its a fantastic bike. will really come alive with a set of aftermarket pipes and a PCV too.

edited to add:

He says totally stock (aside from the screen he mentions) but it also has a tail tidy, rear indicators removed, and, presumably, n aftermarket integrated tail light. not that thats anything to be concerned about.

**pratik8890** · 22nd November 2013, 08:02

Originally Posted by tigertim20

8k for the r1 wouldnt be bad. even 8750 isnt entirely unreasonable. I have the 08 (same model) in blue and its a fantastic bike. will really come alive with a set of aftermarket pipes and a PCV too.

edited to add:

He says totally stock (aside from the screen he mentions) but it also has a tail tidy, rear indicators removed, and, presumably, n aftermarket integrated tail light. not that thats anything to be concerned about.

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.

**The Reibz** · 22nd November 2013, 11:58

Originally Posted by pratik8890

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.

$1700 - $3000+

K&N/BMC/Pipercross - 200
Headers - 800
Muflers - 800
PCV - 400
Dyno - fucks knows but they aint cheap.

Don't bother just getting slipons, they make fuck all power without headers and are cosmetic only. You don't need to do a dyno tune if your are mechanically minded and understand the basic fundamentals of the Dynojet software. You can do your own testing with a data logger like I have done, it just takes a month or so to get the bike to where you want (10.2 at 145mph+ is where i eventually want to be on my set up)

If you want loud just cut the pipe, remove baffle and come see me to get it welded back up.

GET HEADERS AND PCV, WORRY ABOUT MUFFLERS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CASH

**BigAl** · 22nd November 2013, 12:44

If you come to an arrangement with any of the sellers then I'd try and ride them as they are because you will find that any of the 1000s produce enough power in std form.

How often do you need in excess of 250kph?

**tigertim20** · 22nd November 2013, 15:47

Originally Posted by pratik8890

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.

depends how far you want to go, you could blow 3k just on some akra parts . . .

the stock bike is blisteringly fast, and doesnt NEED opening up at all.

Easiest way is to go power commander, Y pipe (ditches the heavy restrictive catalytic converter) and pipes if you want. I know a few guys who have put A & R race baffles in theirs, and love them. PCV can be had for around $260 USD. I can PM you a few links if you are really keen.

When I bought my 08 R1 it was bone stock and well under 10k on the clock, so I decided to ride it stock for a few months to feel it out before spending any money on it

Originally Posted by BigAl

If you come to an arrangement with any of the sellers then I'd try and ride them as they are because you will find that any of the 1000s produce enough power in std form.

How often do you need in excess of 250kph?

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

**Ender EnZed** · 22nd November 2013, 16:20

Originally Posted by tigertim20

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

I agree that more power is always better and that there are very few things better than a good 180km/h+ powerslide, most things that are probably involve going faster. Having ridden a Hayabusa for more than a year I really can't imagine downgrading to a bike that won't light the rear tyre up at any speed, any gear, on (almost) any surface. This is coming from guy with (as far as I'm aware) just a noisy Chinese slip-on that was there when I bought it. But spending good money on a relatively cheap (in the scheme of things) bike that already has 170hp+ stock just seems kinda silly. If the money is not at all an issue then you'd probably already have an RSV4, S1000RR, or 1198.

In this particular thread we're talking about a dude who currently rides an FZR250. Power Commanders, headers and dyno tuning on his new 1000cc supersports bike are going to be about as useful as homeopathy to him.

**mossy1200** · 22nd November 2013, 16:31

If the aftermarket goodies are important and your buying second hand then buy one with the bits on it. They will have cost someone 3k but wont make the bike worth 3k extra.

I have spent almost 3k on mine with akra headers, Yoshi cans, pcV with drag maps, ecu flash gear, rearsets, filter and additional ignition maps and it hasn't made my bike worth more maybe just easier to sell and more fun to ride.

**tigertim20** · 22nd November 2013, 16:45

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

I agree that more power is always better and that there are very few things better than a good 180km/h+ powerslide, most things that are probably involve going faster. Having ridden a Hayabusa for more than a year I really can't imagine downgrading to a bike that won't light the rear tyre up at any speed, any gear, on (almost) any surface. This is coming from guy with (as far as I'm aware) just a noisy Chinese slip-on that was there when I bought it. Spending good money on a relatively cheap (in the scheme of things) bike that already has 170hp+ stock just seems kinda silly. If the money is not at all an issue then you'd probably already have an RSV4, S1000RR, or 1198.

In this particular thread we're talking about a dude who currently rides an FZR250. Power Commanders, headers and dyno tuning on his new 1000cc supersports bike are going to be about as useful as homeopathy to him.

bit like telling your teenage son not to go fucking the local sluts.
He's going to do it anyway, so you might as well tell him to do it right. if it gets him in trouble it's his own fault - old enough to make a decision, old enough to accept the consequences