Hidden speed camera live in Auckland

[SPman]

[russd7]

You will also recall that they "would ONLY be used at accident black spots" then?

yeah possibly, my selective memory is only recalling certain facts
but it still doesn't debunk the argument that if you are speeding and you get caught then fair cop regardless of the method, the motorway cameras are coming to check regos anyway, thank f**k we dont have motorways where i live

[Mogwa]

Very thorough review of that camera van so far. Can anyone confirm that they do leave the vehicle?
Ive seen this and other vans loaded with very expensive cameras and dont think police would be naive enough to think nothing would happen ever.
Ive also seen them idling away on the side of the road on cold mornings possibly to keep the batteries charged enough to run the cameras, probably though just to keep mr (or Ms) Po Po toesys warm.
I also notice survey strips (two black hoses spanning the road) positioned in the same general locations. Does anyone know how these get used and what info they gather.

As far as rights being violated by hiding these cameras... risk vs reward . is it really worth speeding everywhere

[Woodman]

So.. how would you do it? What would your KPIs be?

Personally, I just assume that their could be a speed camera, marked car or unmarked car on any road at any time. Its my choice to speed and my fault if I get caught. Don't understand the revenue gathering argument.

So I get red bling for this??? Cool Elcoyote, you have made my day.

[baffa]

So I get red bling for this??? Cool Elcoyote, you have made my day.

Of course you get red bling, logic isnt allowed on these foramz.

Take the speed camera part of the argument away and replace it with random breath test or reg and wof checks, and you realise just how stupid his "argument" is.

"How dare they not warn me when there is going to be a breath test, so I can sober up before I drive"!!!

[russd7]

"How dare they not warn me when there is going to be a breath test, so I can sober up before I drive"!!!

actually they do let you know there is going to be breath testing at every march hare rally for the last three years and yet they still get people over the limit

[Jay GTI]

If you don't speed you won't caught. It's simple. Or at least that is what the 2 braincell and one isn't working muppets love to roll out when ever anyone brings out the issue of speed cameras. Failing to understand that they are the simple ones.

Try not speeding, ever. Go on. Do it for a week and don't speed once during every single trip you make, work and back, social trips, running the kids around, what ever. It's apparently simple, so stop talking about it and fucking do it. Once you've passed that epically easy task, don't speed at all, ever, for a month. Fucking easy as pissing your pants, so bollocks to that, do it for a year. And when you've achieved that effortless milestone, NEVER EVER SPEED AGAIN, EVER BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE, ISN'T IT?

So simple that even Cops can't manage it. Politicians can't manage it. The bleating idiots that think speed cameras serve any purpose other than revenue gathering can't do it. So simple that in fact no-one can manage it. Ever.

There are millions of road journeys being taken, every single day, successfully, at over the speed limit. Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions. Daily. Without incident. No crashes, no injuries, no dying. Millions of people today have got into a motor vehicle, somewhere in the world, and driven over the speed limit with nothing happening to them at all, apart from them reaching their destination.

Fucking don't speed and you won't get caught retards.

[rastuscat]

i feel if the police were really serious about slowing the public down..............surely ALL their cars........parked up or otherwise......would be marked wouldn't they?........i mean a more visable presence on the road would have to equate to people driving slower wouldn't it?

Ponder the deterrent question here.

A marked car has whats called a halo effect. If we see a police car, we tend to drive a little more carefully. Inversely, when we can't see a police car, we tend to be a little less cautious.

Plain cars are well publicized. Surely everyone knows that the Police use plain cars, mainly for other things, but also for road policing. This knowledge in itself creates a degree of deterrent.

Having those plain cars also allows the Police road cops to see the un-halo'd driving of some numpties who might have seen the marked patrol car. We get to see some reall shitty driving from the plain cars that we don't see from the marked ones.

Still, I personally prefer marked cars. I'm keen on the overt deterrent. I also always wear my hat in public, and my yellow snake coat. Basically I feel that if anyone is silly enough to get caught by a mobile enforcment billboard, well, I don't have too much sympathy.

Some of my colleagues prefer to deal with the really shitty driving offences, so like the plain cars. They see more really sitty driving from them.

Consider also the nature of risk. Risk is a small number of really shitty things that happen very occasionally, but it's also the little things that happen all the time, frequently. E.g. Someone comes down Springfield Road at 85 in a 50 maybe every day or so. Almost everyone else comes down that road at 55. We write tickets for those doing 11 or more over. Ee get hundreds at 55, but maybe 2% doing over 60. Funny really, when the guy doing 61 says that everyone is doing it. When I know that's bollocks.

Anyhoo, back to the OP. Plain cars exist. Just a thought. Ride like you're being watched. Maybe then you'll not have to worry. I've done 2657 km in the last 10 days on the bike, around the South Island, and spent zero time worrying about getting caught. Coz I was doing nothing to get caught for.

Donuts.

[Zedder]

Ponder the deterrent question here.

A marked car has whats called a halo effect. If we see a police car, we tend to drive a little more carefully. Inversely, when we can't see a police car, we tend to be a little less cautious.

Plain cars are well publicized. Surely everyone knows that the Police use plain cars, mainly for other things, but also for road policing. This knowledge in itself creates a degree of deterrent.

Having those plain cars also allows the Police road cops to see the un-halo'd driving of some numpties who might have seen the marked patrol car. We get to see some reall shitty driving from the plain cars that we don't see from the marked ones.

Still, I personally prefer marked cars. I'm keen on the overt deterrent. I also always wear my hat in public, and my yellow snake coat. Basically I feel that if anyone is silly enough to get caught by a mobile enforcment billboard, well, I don't have too much sympathy.

Some of my colleagues prefer to deal with the really shitty driving offences, so like the plain cars. They see more really sitty driving from them.

Consider also the nature of risk. Risk is a small number of really shitty things that happen very occasionally, but it's also the little things that happen all the time, frequently. E.g. Someone comes down Springfield Road at 85 in a 50 maybe every day or so. Almost everyone else comes down that road at 55. We write tickets for those doing 11 or more over. Ee get hundreds at 55, but maybe 2% doing over 60. Funny really, when the guy doing 61 says that everyone is doing it. When I know that's bollocks.

Anyhoo, back to the OP. Plain cars exist. Just a thought. Ride like you're being watched. Maybe then you'll not have to worry. I've done 2657 km in the last 10 days on the bike, around the South Island, and spent zero time worrying about getting caught. Coz I was doing nothing to get caught for.

Donuts.

Good post there rtc. I've been out and about a lot since I've been back and happily still have no gubbermint revenue to report apart from usual on road costs.

How'd the MOTONZ application go?



Alpacas! (Couldn't be stuffed doing the image thing)

[russd7]

If you don't speed you won't caught. It's simple. Or at least that is what the 2 braincell and one isn't working muppets love to roll out when ever anyone brings out the issue of speed cameras. Failing to understand that they are the simple ones.

Try not speeding, ever. Go on. Do it for a week and don't speed once during every single trip you make, work and back, social trips, running the kids around, what ever. It's apparently simple, so stop talking about it and fucking do it. Once you've passed that epically easy task, don't speed at all, ever, for a month. Fucking easy as pissing your pants, so bollocks to that, do it for a year. And when you've achieved that effortless milestone, NEVER EVER SPEED AGAIN, EVER BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE, ISN'T IT?

So simple that even Cops can't manage it. Politicians can't manage it. The bleating idiots that think speed cameras serve any purpose other than revenue gathering can't do it. So simple that in fact no-one can manage it. Ever.

There are millions of road journeys being taken, every single day, successfully, at over the speed limit. Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions. Daily. Without incident. No crashes, no injuries, no dying. Millions of people today have got into a motor vehicle, somewhere in the world, and driven over the speed limit with nothing happening to them at all, apart from them reaching their destination.

Fucking don't speed and you won't get caught retards.

god what a pathetic attempt at a rant, i have had numerous speeding infringements and all on the open road, i would have to say the lowest was for 16kms/hr over, the only time i have had a ticket for 104kms was back in 1983 on the open road, anyone here remember what the open road speed limit was back then.
and i do my best not to speed in lower speed zones and that does include roadworks

grow some nuts, suck it up and get on with your life

[rastuscat]

Good post there rtc. I've been out and about a lot since I've been back and happily still have no gubbermint revenue to report apart from usual on road costs.

How'd the MOTONZ application go?

Apps close this Friday. I haven't heard back yet, don't expect much though.

[scumdog]

See a common theme here......

Rastuscat "Ponder the deterrent question here.

A marked car has whats called a halo effect. If we see a police car, we tend to drive a little more carefully. Inversely, when we can't see a police car, we tend to be a little less cautious.

Plain cars are well publicized. Surely everyone knows that the Police use plain cars, mainly for other things, but also for road policing. This knowledge in itself creates a degree of deterrent.

Having those plain cars also allows the Police road cops to see the un-halo'd driving of some numpties who might have seen the marked patrol car. We get to see some reall shitty driving from the plain cars that we don't see from the marked ones."


Scumdog:"Yep, I'm sure a Gods-eye-view of a marked cop-car driving along the road would show a 'bubble' of fairly good driving in the vicinity of the cop-car as it goes along.

Further out ahead and behind it would show the fairly 'average-to-poor' standard of driving that normally abounds when people think no cop is around."

[Akzle]

See a common theme here......

Rastuscat "Ponder the deterrent question here.

A marked car has whats called a halo effect. If we see a police car, we tend to drive a little more carefully. Inversely, when we can't see a police car, we tend to be a little less cautious.

Plain cars are well publicized. Surely everyone knows that the Police use plain cars, mainly for other things, but also for road policing. This knowledge in itself creates a degree of deterrent.

Having those plain cars also allows the Police road cops to see the un-halo'd driving of some numpties who might have seen the marked patrol car. We get to see some reall shitty driving from the plain cars that we don't see from the marked ones."


Scumdog:"Yep, I'm sure a Gods-eye-view of a marked cop-car driving along the road would show a 'bubble' of fairly good driving in the vicinity of the cop-car as it goes along.

Further out ahead and behind it would show the fairly 'average-to-poor' standard of driving that normally abounds when people think no cop is around."

i dont get it.

...youre both jews?

I'm going to "speed". Everywhere i go tomorow.

[russd7]

Scumdog:"Yep, I'm sure a Gods-eye-view of a marked cop-car driving along the road would show a 'bubble' of fairly good driving in the vicinity of the cop-car as it goes along.

Further out ahead and behind it would show the fairly 'average-to-poor' standard of driving that normally abounds when people think no cop is around."

thankfully im an athiest and my driving/riding is beyond reproach until proven otherwise

[pritch]

I'm going to "speed". Everywhere i go tomorow.

Cool, but FFS don't come on KB and whinge about it if you get caught.