Motorcyclists 23% safer behind the wheel - no surprises there?

[haydes55]

I don't know how cars crash..... You'd have to be mentally retarded to have a car crash once you've learnt to drive. If you still can't keep your car in your lane and away from other cars, check yourself into a psychiatric centre, surrender your car to the police and employ Somalians to drive you around.

I've had my work van for over 2 years and over 100,000km. I've put 1 dent in it.... I hit a rock that fell off the back of a truck heading the other direction, it bounced up and hit above the headlight. I went away on holiday for 2 weeks to Aussie, come back and the new guy had used my van, the wheels are curbed, there's a massive ding under the sliding door that's starting to rust and the aerial has been snapped in 2. And he was surprised he didn't last the 90 day trial.

[Zedder]

Aye, they lie like sausages in fat, but in this case we're looking at raw data, they've made no inference at all.

So let's do it for them, eh? A difference that size is fairly easilly explained by the likely difference in the distance licenced riders travel in cars. If it was 75% of the average car-only driver you'd expect that result.

It's also possible bike riders make fewer claims in both car and bike classes...

This is not raw data as I know it ierimary data. In fact, the article states that figures were adjusted.

You're on the right track regarding distance travelled, that's the type of extra info I was after.

[paturoa]

The reason could be that the shit motorcycle riders have self selected themselves (Darwin) out of the sample set, and we are only left with the motorcyclists that have core competencies, that make them safer.

Whereas, shit car drivers are more likely to survive and continue driving cars.

[Trade_nancy]

When closing down on in the critical stages preceding final School Cert exams (swat) back in 1972 my good ol mum decided to spend her hard earned working cash to buy me a 125cc m/bike as a 1st vehicle for 6th form..and as a bribe to not fuck up the exams I guess. We lived next door to a bike cop (used a BSA Lightning).....she went and asked him about the safety or lack of it....not convinced she was doing the right thing...he told her "go get him a bike and make him join the bike riding school....once he's ridden a bike - he'll become a much safer car driver later". She did. I did. He was right.
Today as I pottered down Bourke Street through town - a young wench backed her Honda Prelude out of her driveway and across my path onto the opposite side of the road. She never saw me till I leaned on the horn while stopped right beside her as she started to move away...and asked her if she was blind and needed fucking by a walrus.
ABS not needed - predicated her move...so not in danger... I find myself second guessing everyone's next move. Does make me a little paraniod I guess...and certainly always nervous going through car busy intersections etc.
Most cagers are not focused (enough)on the environment their missile is traversing.

[varminter]

Yep, is it ignorance or apathy? I play the game of 'what they gonna do?' see if I can guess what the vehicle in front is going to do before they do it. Bit like automotive body language.