Hi Viz?

[The Reibz]

They removed our high vis arm markings off our uniform at work. My only issue with it is if I go over the side of the ship at night, how are the search lights going to find me? Other than that I couldn't care less.
I don't see the point of it on motorcycles, just makes you look like one of those cyclist faggots with the "one less car.." high vis bags on.

[scumdog]

I don't see the point of it on motorcycles, just makes you look like one of those cyclist faggots with the "one less car.." high vis bags on.

That's it!

I WILL wear hi-viz just for the 'piss-you-off' factor!

[The Reibz]

I WILL wear hi-viz just for the 'piss-you-off' factor!

Trust me bro, it doesn't piss me off. Every cunt has the right to wear what they want ay. Even crossdressers and shit don't disgust me (that much)
I aint gonna judge cunts just because they wear high vis, I just wont ever wear it on my bike

[duckonin]

Trust me bro, it doesn't piss me off. Every cunt has the right to wear what they want ay. Even crossdressers and shit don't disgust me (that much)
I aint gonna judge cunts just because they wear high vis, I just wont ever wear it on my bike

Because persons wear hi vis does not make them, CUNTS ! They are generally persons that would like to make themselves a little more visible to those idiots around them. That's fine if you do not want to wear Hi Vis, no person really gives a fuck about you a anyway. Take that you Cunt !!!

[Zedder]

They removed our high vis arm markings off our uniform at work. My only issue with it is if I go over the side of the ship at night, how are the search lights going to find me? Other than that I couldn't care less.
I don't see the point of it on motorcycles, just makes you look like one of those cyclist faggots with the "one less car.." high vis bags on.

Maybe they're sending you a subtle message regarding the removal of those Hi Viz markings...

[pritch]

The answer is in having contrasting colours, textures and patterns, all good clues to a seeing eye. Yellow or orange can provide that, but not exclusively so. Black leather jacket with white sleeves is good too. Harley orange looks cool too. Contrast is the key, citizens.

That makes sense.

It has been discussed here before, but research found that drivers responded best to a perceived threat. So looking like a cop or a Hells Angel is good. Looking like the dayglo fairy won't do much except make you feel good - if that's what you're into.

You still have to protect yourself from the buggers who don't look at all.

[Blackbird]

You still have to protect yourself from the buggers who don't look at all.

Ron, hence my earlier comment about upskilling

[awa355]

I would wear my Hi Viz, but the zip is broken.

[rastuscat]

Another tangent, sorry.

The folk who wear hi-viz often think it's that that makes them feel safer.

Thing is, donning hi-viz in itself indicates that the donner has a safety attitude. It is likely that they will ride more cautiously than someone who is wearing shorts and a t-shirt on their Hayabusa.

It's a bit like training. The ones who self refer to training display a safety attitude simply be recognising that they can learn something. Those who pooh pooh training appear to me to be saying that they have nil to learn.

Training already exists, and thanks to our local ACC subsidy, it's bloody cheap.

Making training compulsory sets it up to fail, as those who already are opposed to compulsion probably won't do it, and ironically, these are often the ones who need it most.

Making hi-viz compulsory is missing the point too. The key to conspicuity is contrast, and that doesn't have to be yellow or orange.

Just a point of view.

Donuts.

[awa355]

To be honest, I nearly always do wear my Hi Viz vest. Infact, as a 18yr old back in 1970, I bought a yellow/tan leather jacket because I thought it would stand out better than black jackets. My helmets were always white for the same reason. White helmets can be scarce thesedays.

[rastuscat]

To be honest, I nearly always do wear my Hi Viz vest. Infact, as a 18yr old back in 1970, I bought a yellow/tan leather jacket because I thought it would stand out better than black jackets. My helmets were always white for the same reason. White helmets can be scarce thesedays.

Your tan jacket is a great contrast, and cool to go with it.

In an irony, if you wear a yellow hi viz vest, your white helmet contrasts with it better than a hi viz yellow helmet.

Hi viz yellow helmets work best with orange vests, or just plain black jackets.

[Tigadee]

Hi-vis are like safety belts - whether it saves your life or not, it does at least help the emergency crew find your body.

[Berries]

Thing is, donning hi-viz in itself indicates that the donner has a safety attitude. It is likely that they will ride more cautiously than someone who is wearing shorts and a t-shirt on their Hayabusa.

Just a point of view.

Got to say that I disagree with that generalisation. Donning hi-viz might just as well indicate that the rider does not feel comfortable on a bike and that they are taking every measure possible they think will help them rather than doing the right thing and getting a car.

People with hi-viz get knocked off. Unfortunately that information is not collected at the crash scene so we will never know just how prevalent it is. I would suggest that anyone who dons the magic cloak of visibility could be setting themselves up for a fall by thinking, even subconsciously, that the driver who has just had eye contact with them is not about to pull out on them because of the colour of their jacket.

Each to their own. Until they do pink and orange checks I'm not having one.

[R650R]

...Training already exists, and thanks to our local ACC subsidy, it's bloody cheap...

Just out of interest what does one learn at these days that you don't already know if your a competent experienced road user?
Is it just all the generic road positioning, use both brakes, assess environment, manage fatigue, plan trip etc... or is there some moment of clarity to be had...
It's just that I've lost count of the hours of my life wasted in the likes of Forklift and Hazardous goods courses which are padded out to whole day affairs just to justify the person running it to charge $500 a head or whatever...
Still think there's too much focus in NZ on 'you're a good driver' if you don't drink, speed etc... instead of keeping it simple at something crazy could happen in the next instant, be prepared.
We should just do away with driver licensing altogether and make applicants watch Russian dashcam vids till the assessor notes a genuine sense of fear of whats out there...

Ohh btw for the vesties, you might like these things folks http://www.motosport.com/NZ/motorcyc...TARY-SPEC-VEST

[Blackbird]

Just out of interest what does one learn at these days that you don't already know if your a competent experienced road user?

Experienced and Advanced isn't the same thing. I'd been riding for over 45 years and probably perpetuating the same mistakes every 5 years or so. Then I had an assessment by IAM and sustained major ego damage . It's not for everyone but by crikey, I've learned a huge amount.