Brotherhood Bikers?

**Padmei** · 25th November 2013, 17:18

I just had a look at their website - weird. Why join a club with rules?

**Zedder** · 25th November 2013, 17:22

Originally Posted by Hitcher

A patch with a skull and crossbones and a commitment to "old school" values. Hmmm.

Arrr, the pirate code mebe it is Hitcher...

**rustyrobot** · 2nd December 2013, 07:40

I had a chat with one of the greybeards on the toy run this weekend. They seem like a decent lot. He said that the Brotherhood Bikers initially formed in Wellington out of the Harley Owners Group, and was first affiliated with an American organisation of the same name. They are now a standalone outfit, and welcome riders on any machine (although to be honest I think you'd be a bit out of place on a sprots bike with leather any colour other than black). The charter and rules etc were because the club had charitable organisation status, although have subsequently been deregistered.

I think old school (biker) values sums them up quite well from an outsiders point of view. Good on them for 'organising' the (un-official) toy run. It was a nice ride and good to see a big stack of toys for the kids at the end of the day.

**Katman** · 2nd December 2013, 07:55

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

I'm just not into the whole sargent at arms thing...

I had three patched guys turn up one day. The patch turned out to be for a christian 'gang'.

They were playing the part right down to the German style helmet and the 1% badge.

Still can't quite get my head around that one.

**Zedder** · 2nd December 2013, 08:17

Originally Posted by Katman

I had three patched guys turn up one day. The patch turned out to be for a christian 'gang'.

They were playing the part right down to the German style helmet and the 1% badge.

Still can't quite get my head around that one.

Heh, that reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about Hell's Grannies.

**unstuck** · 2nd December 2013, 08:19

The brotherhood used to be a gang of animals associated with the highway 61,s back in the 80,s. Based in Glenfield. There were some right animals amongst them, cheap beer though.

**Hitcher** · 2nd December 2013, 08:31

Just because and organisation organises a toy run or similar event, doesn't make them Good Buggers in my eyes. For example Hells Angels does a lot of "community work" in places where it has chapters. That is nothing more than a cynical attention grab to curry favour with people who may otherwise think they're just a bunch of drug-dealing, thieving, violent, psychopathic, women-hating thugs.

**rustyrobot** · 2nd December 2013, 11:56

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Just because and organisation organises a toy run or similar event, doesn't make them Good Buggers in my eyes. For example Hells Angels does a lot of "community work" in places where it has chapters. That is nothing more than a cynical attention grab to curry favour with people who may otherwise think they're just a bunch of drug-dealing, thieving, violent, psychopathic, women-hating thugs.

That's a fair call. I suspect that there are good and bad amongst their members as with any other group of people. "We do not discriminate against Race, Age, Gender, Religion, Orientation, what make of bike you ride or what ever side of the fence you sit on" seems like a good start though.

Perhaps they do perpetuate some of the old biker stereotypes, however most of the riders I meet are middle-class, not-quite-middle-age, white-collar professionals who reinforce a stereotype all of their own (M.L.C.). I'm sure there's room for all types on the road, and I would hope that organised Motorcycle Clubs attract at least a small handful of people who might otherwise get involved in the less scrupulous biker thug gangs.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 2nd December 2013, 12:10

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Just because and organisation organises a toy run or similar event, doesn't make them Good Buggers in my eyes. For example Hells Angels does a lot of "community work" in places where it has chapters. That is nothing more than a cynical attention grab to curry favour with people who may otherwise think they're just a bunch of drug-dealing, thieving, violent, psychopathic, women-hating thugs.

*The Brotherhood* aren't a 1% type of thing Hitch. AS mentioned...they started out as a breakaway group from the Wellington HOG Chapter.

**Hitcher** · 2nd December 2013, 13:34

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

*The Brotherhood* aren't a 1% type of thing Hitch. AS mentioned...they started out as a breakaway group from the Wellington HOG Chapter.

That's good to know.

**Zedder** · 2nd December 2013, 17:51

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Just because and organisation organises a toy run or similar event, doesn't make them Good Buggers in my eyes. For example Hells Angels does a lot of "community work" in places where it has chapters. That is nothing more than a cynical attention grab to curry favour with people who may otherwise think they're just a bunch of drug-dealing, thieving, violent, psychopathic, women-hating thugs.

I recently got an email from a guy I used to work with in the USA, among other things he wrote about the Hell's Angels having an intellectual property lawyer who's taken various people to court over infringments about H A branding.

Over the last 7 years he's put 12 cases through the courts. It seems the outlaws are much more inlaws these days.

**nzspokes** · 2nd December 2013, 19:40

Originally Posted by Katman

I had three patched guys turn up one day. The patch turned out to be for a christian 'gang'.

They were playing the part right down to the German style helmet and the 1% badge.

Still can't quite get my head around that one.

http://www.theredeemed.org/

**Katman** · 2nd December 2013, 19:42

Originally Posted by nzspokes

http://www.theredeemed.org/

Wasn't them.

**kevie** · 3rd December 2013, 20:07

well ... I went to the "RIDES IN DA PARK" event in Hamilton on the weekend (wont mentioned it got a tad rained out) BUT >>>>>>>>> there were several members of Brotherhood Bikers there and got to have a cool chat to them, they are a SMC (Social Motorcycle Club) and an awesome bunch of guys (and gals)

been looking on the net too ..... and they are worldwide by the looks of it, the Waikato chapter is fairly new.
I like the fact they have rules and values to adhere to keeps the group on track I recon, and nothing wrong with "old school values" NZ society needs more of that and a lot less of the PC crap I recon.