Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[chasio]

Yeah I know, but I felt bad about the last time I commented on a similar thread, so wanted to put a bit more effort in this time. A little too much effort, as it turned out...

FWIW, I thought it was a good post

[Jay GTI]

Small point.
1st was on East Coast Rd close to where Constellation now joins it.

Do you know what was on the first film developed from that camera? The same car going past, time and time again. The same naked arses hanging out the windows!
The same fake rego plate... "FUCK U".

That info comes straight from the Taka cops... who thought it was hilarious!

Yeah hence the disclaimers in that part, long time ago and my memory of that time is patchy at best (first year of not living at home, I was making the most of it ). The Birkenhead one wouldn't have been far off the first, but I still remember driving past it seeing it pancaked.

[Jay GTI]

FWIW, I thought it was a good post

thanks, at least it wasn't entirely wasted effort then

[swbarnett]

Yeah, thing is, laws have to be enforcable to be effective.

I'd love to have a law that allows better drivers to go faster than fuckwits, but that'd mean setting up a system to define who the fuckwits are.

So we make a law for everyone based on the fuckwits. Because they do exist, so we gotta allow for them.

That's the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.

If our pre-historic ancestors had had that kind of thinking we'd still be living in caves.

[swbarnett]

Either I am missing your point, or there is a missing in- prefix on your second "attentive". I concede that both are possible.

You are correct. The second "attentive" should've been "inattentave".

[swbarnett]

Totally agree.

How do we do that?

Hard question I know. However, one thing you don't do is ignore it and go onto something that's easier but of no consequence.

The doctor's motto should also apply to politicians and cops - "First do no harm!"

[Robbo]

Look - this is all nice and great but I'm with the rest. I'm over it... 4kph allowance?? FFS this is getting stupid, I'll be riding around looking at the damn speedo all the time and not the road.

Yep, totally agree Paul, it is complete bullshit and just revenue collecting. I always thought the traffic police were meant to be keeping our roads safer and concentrating on issues like..Running red lights, tailgating, failing to keep left, using mobile phones while operating a vehicle, driving at dangerous speeds (not 4km over) inconsiderate driving, not indicating turns etc. Obviously i was mistaken as i rarely ever see them carrying out these functions but often see them parked up having a coffee and a doughnut while watching their radar. Get those patrol out of those laybys and motorway off ramps and get out amongst the traffic where the real problems are occuring. Use more mufti cars, but for 4km/hr over?? For fucksake.

[oneofsix]

That's the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.

If our pre-historic ancestors had had that kind of thinking we'd still be living in caves.

They existed back then too but back then they failed to halt progress by allowing for the "lowest common denominator". The same will happen again, speed limits world wide are creeping up.

Hard question I know. However, one thing you don't do is ignore it and go onto something that's easier but of no consequence.

The doctor's motto should also apply to politicians and cops - "First do no harm!"

Cops and Politicians have slight variations on that motto Politicians add "to me" to the end and cops add "that I can get caught for"

Ok that was a bit harsh on the cops.

[Zedder]

Yeah hence the disclaimers in that part, long time ago and my memory of that time is patchy at best (first year of not living at home, I was making the most of it ). The Birkenhead one wouldn't have been far off the first, but I still remember driving past it seeing it pancaked.

Yep, that bloody Birkenhead one, down a dip behind a tree, the bastards!

Incidently your post wasn't any longer than a single page in a novel or a long editorial in a newspaper. At least it had punctuation and paragraphs etc, more than some on here have.

[Hawkeye]

Riding home Tues on Sh1, up the gorge in Welly, I was following the fully logo'd Edge Roadrunner Truck doing 80k. As we got to the 100k zone of the motorway the line of traffic all moved up to around the 100k. 200mtrs later the muppet driving the truck suddenly slowed to 75ish and was wandering all over the road. I get along side to see the total muppet sending a fucking text.
He almost took me out as I went past to get out of his way. Yeah a 4k tolerance would have saved me in that situation. Tui any one!
As has been said by so many already in this thread, it's not the speed, it's the muppet driving.

And yes, I did ring up the radio station and dob the driver in!

[nzmikey]

And yes, I did ring up the radio station and dob the driver in!

While driving I assume ?

[Jay GTI]

Yep, totally agree Paul, it is complete bullshit and just revenue collecting. I always thought the traffic police were meant to be keeping our roads safer and concentrating on issues like..Running red lights, tailgating, failing to keep left, using mobile phones while operating a vehicle, driving at dangerous speeds (not 4km over) inconsiderate driving, not indicating turns etc. Obviously i was mistaken as i rarely ever see them carrying out these functions but often see them parked up having a coffee and a doughnut while watching their radar. Get those patrol out of those laybys and motorway off ramps and get out amongst the traffic where the real problems are occuring. Use more mufti cars, but for 4km/hr over?? For fucksake.

When they are actually out and about observing traffic, I'm constantly surprised at how many of them themselves are exceeding the speed limit. No blues and twos, just going about their daily duties. If speeding is the hideously awful crime we're constantly being told it is, we should fit every cop car and bike (non-transport and the rest of the force as well) with GPS trackers and make the speed they travel at public information. The technology already exists, it would be simple to do, they could remove the location information and just use the travelled speed vs posted limit... then they could all lead by example, because obviously, it's just a matter of slowing down.

Tui anyone?

[bsasuper]

If you get pulled by the popo for doing 5 over the limit, ask them If you were driving/riding dangerously, to which they will reply you were 5 over the posted speed limit, to which you reply ohh so its just a revenue collection then.

If you are one of these people who cant control your speed at the number on the speed limit sign, ie at a steady forward motion due to being so uncoordinated, maybe you should practice somewhere like a motorcycle training center.

[nzmikey]

If you are one of these people who cant control your speed at the number on the speed limit sign, ie at a steady forward motion due to being so uncoordinated, maybe you should practice somewhere like a motorcycle training center.

Can I offer you a soap box oh holy one ?

[pritch]

In fact, Professor Mike Regan of the University of New South Wales and a 20 year veteran of studies into Transportation Human Factors, believes inattention is the biggest contributing factor in crashes but speed is often wrongly coded as the causal factor.

A few years back there was a British study, from memory speed ranked seventh as the most common cause. The thought was that even this was artificially high due to many accidents being attended by general duties cops rather than specialist traffic police. It was considered that the GD types too readily ascribe speed as the cause.

The various categories ahead of speed included:
Didn't look.
Looked but didn't see.
Misjudged trajectory of own vehicle.
Misjudged trajectory of other vehicle.

All of which looks much more detailed and better thought out than the usual brain dead, "Speed and alcohol may have been factors." that we hear ad nauseum in this country.