Speed tolerance reduced for December and January

[The Reibz]

Due to there not being any real police work for the pigs to do they need to resort to this. Hard enough for most people at this time of year as it is.

Ah well, I aint stopping for no cunt this christmas

[Zedder]

Due to there not being any real police work for the pigs to do they need to resort to this. Hard enough for most people at this time of year as it is.

Ah well, I aint stopping for no cunt this christmas

Police 10-7 will probably be filming about then too.

[The Reibz]

Police 10-7 will probably be filming about then too.

Sweet, then I would have finally made it in life.
I will make sure I give you a shout out when they finally catch up mate

[Zedder]

Sweet, then I would have finally made it in life.
I will make sure I give you a shout out when they finally catch up mate

Cool, I'll pick ya up from the Police Station.

[GrayWolf]

Yes. No speed is safe completely. But as a society we have to travel about. Its important for social, financial, actually so many reasons.

So, as a democratic society we elect people to make decisions on the balance between the need to travel pitted against the safety of the whole. At this time in history we have the limits set by various democratically elected government stratas.

Those strata employ and direct various activites around enforcing such limits as are set.

And this is where the discussion started.

However Rastus,

these same democratically elected government officials and Public servants are also the same ones who have just had to send out a Publically driven referendum over sales of SOE's... AFTER the fact, so even if the electorate by referendum show clearly that they do not support or want it? Our illustrious leader Mr Don Key, will carry on his own sweet way.

After all, the public discussion about a 4kph limit for 2 months, and the referendum, keeps the public mind off his other main agenda.. the ERA (employment relations amendments) that get the second reading in Dec. Then he gets to REALLY screw everyone who works.

[Dave-]

Just been down to the shop and had a go at trying to hold consistantly under 54km and could see a lot of rear end collisions happening as people keep their eyes more on the speedo than the road. I would say it is far cheaper to ignore
it and risk a ticket than pay for the consequence of rear ending anyone. Having said that though my bike and car do hold a consistant speed better at 100-104km. Maybe it has something to do with gear ratios but to change down at 50km would have the motor reving too high which would not be good either.

So what you're saying is that you cannot safely operate a vehicle? My grandma has the same problem, she's like 85 and they (quite rightly) took her license away.

[roogazza]

Speed and this speed tolerance thing is not a surprise really is it , this is New Zealand !
We seem to do things a bit different here, I mean if you travel a little bit you'll get the idea.
I mean for all our non smoking plans and regulations you'll find it's just about bloody compulsory to smoke elsewhere.
So for all you rebels out there,suck it up,even the smoke !
I will be.

[Berg]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
For a starter, a $30 speed ticket costs more in time, wages, fuel etc than it makes. Secondly, fuck that shit, I make way more revenue sitting at the stop sign down the road where punters cough up $150 per time (one guy in a truck twice in three days) for doing the normal "but I slowed down" rolling stop.
Also 22 cell phone tickets in 5 days at $80 per time, now that's fucken revenue collecting (well that's what most of them told me).
Of note, the lowest speed I've ticketed this year was 118km. Obviously not doing my job properly

[G4L4XY]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
For a starter, a $30 speed ticket costs more in time, wages, fuel etc than it makes. Secondly, fuck that shit, I make way more revenue sitting at the stop sign down the road where punters cough up $150 per time (one guy in a truck twice in three days) for doing the normal "but I slowed down" rolling stop.
Also 22 cell phone tickets in 5 days at $80 per time, now that's fucken revenue collecting (well that's what most of them told me).
Of note, the lowest speed I've ticketed this year was 118km. Obviously not doing my job properly

Bit more of this and you can upgrade ya bike haha

[R650R]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
Also 22 cell phone tickets in 5 days at $80 per time

I agree as stated before that its not revenue gathering as its not cost effective, except maybe for the speed cameras...
I can't believe how few people are caught on their phones especially when police are doing campaigns specifically on them not that I'm against it. It's another one of those multi tasking skills that some have and some don't...
I'm surprised you didn't mention some of the trucking fines as they are way out of proportion in terms of risk/$ vs other offending.
Forget to put the Hazardous goods placard up??? $2000 fine for driver, $10000 fine for company.
Move truck out of way for next fella, oh well fill in hazardous load plan up the road a bit, whoops forget to stop and do it and again, $2000 fine for driver, $10000 fine for company.
Missing a Hazardous goods info sheet for a particular item on your truck that you or forklift driver didn't notice, $2000 fine for driver, $10000 fine for company.
Never got done for any of these myself but know other that have.
In comparison the real danger to joe public is fatigue but the consequences for dodging the logbook are minor in comparison. There is of course the $25000 fine for a manager/dispatcher encouraging a driver to break law or speed etc but its another one of those things in the too hard basket for enforcement that you just about never hear of it being dished out.

[Robbo]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
For a starter, a $30 speed ticket costs more in time, wages, fuel etc than it makes. Secondly, fuck that shit, I make way more revenue sitting at the stop sign down the road where punters cough up $150 per time (one guy in a truck twice in three days) for doing the normal "but I slowed down" rolling stop.
Also 22 cell phone tickets in 5 days at $80 per time, now that's fucken revenue collecting (well that's what most of them told me).
Of note, the lowest speed I've ticketed this year was 118km. Obviously not doing my job properly

Good to see that you're being proactive and dealing with the issues that concern most of us. No complaints there, however fixed speed cameras, both on poles and stationary vans are definitely only revenue collectors as they can't perform any useful duties. You must be one of the few that evaluates speed on its individual merits and circumstances when deciding on the outcome. Well done.

[Scuba_Steve]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.

Well yea, that'd be misguided; this is about Govt money making at the expense of NZs safety

[Zedder]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
For a starter, a $30 speed ticket costs more in time, wages, fuel etc than it makes. Secondly, fuck that shit, I make way more revenue sitting at the stop sign down the road where punters cough up $150 per time (one guy in a truck twice in three days) for doing the normal "but I slowed down" rolling stop.
Also 22 cell phone tickets in 5 days at $80 per time, now that's fucken revenue collecting (well that's what most of them told me).
Of note, the lowest speed I've ticketed this year was 118km. Obviously not doing my job properly

Maybe the odd 15 kms over the speed limit ticketing takes a bit off the top as far as time, wages and fuel etc but if the whole driving population is in the catchment potential with the 4km tolerance it's a different story. Also, don't those new hi tec handhelds do most of the work.

However, it's good you have a non rigid view of things like Rastuscat and SD.

Anyway, I'm off for a motorbike ride and will report any experiences with police revenue gathering attempts on my return.

[pritch]

Was reflecting on the 4kph margin and the realisation dawned that it doesn't really affect me personally. It's not as if I was going to be travelling at 110kph anyway, except possibly when slowing to ride through villages/towns en route.

[swbarnett]

Having a chuckle about those here who think this is police revenue collecting.
For a starter, a $30 speed ticket costs more in time, wages, fuel etc than it makes.

That's money that would be spent anyway. Even if the equation works out in the negative (which it might in your area but I doubt it nationwide) those $30 tickets will at least offset the money that's already been spent.

And then there are speed cameras. No way in hell is that about slowing people down. you get a "nice" letter from LTNZ saying you were speeding a couple of weeks ago (or more). How many people can remember the circumstances that wre prevelant at the time? Big fail on the "education" through enforcement stakes.